Is Russia our foe?

ok doser

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Dude, you have got to stop being such a tard

There's a very specific definition for "enemy"

and russia doesn't meet it

no matter how hard you stamp your foot and insist
 

ClimateSanity

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The question is obvious:

"If Trump was trying to undermine America and our allies, and to help Russia, what would he be doing differently?"

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He could undermine America by ripping out it's industrial base that employs most of the middle class...wait...that was already done.

He could undermine our allies by working with the elites in those societies to work against economic gains for long standing citizens by tanking brexit and the like.

He could help Russia by giving them control over 20% of our uranium....oops..already done.
 

The Barbarian

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He could undermine America by ripping out it's industrial base that employs most of the middle class...wait...that was already done.

Not quite done, yet, but Trump's working on it:
Trump’s Tariffs Are Pushing American Companies to Leave
Harley-Davidson’s motto is “All for freedom. Freedom for all.” Today, however, the freedom to trade in America is deteriorating—and because of that, the iconic motorcycle manufacturer will be moving some of its production overseas.

The United States imposed tariffs of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent on aluminum in March. On June 1, America’s closest trading partners, including the European Union, became subject to the tariffs after President Donald Trump ended their exemption.

Now, the EU is retaliating by imposing tariffs on imports from the U.S., and Harley-Davidson is one of the unfortunate victims. Tariffs on its products are increasing from 6 percent to 31 percent. Harley-Davidson expects that this will increase the cost of a motorcycle exported from the U.S. to the EU by more than $2,000, resulting in annual additional costs of $90 million to $100 million.

When tariffs are imposed, companies affected, like Harley-Davidson, need to balance these extra costs to stay in business. The options are painful, but could include laying off workers, increasing prices, or delaying expansions.

In the case of Harley-Davidson, the company filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission to announce its plan to “shift production of motorcycles for EU destinations from the U.S. to its international facilities to avoid the tariff burden.”

In response to Harley-Davidson’s announcement, House Speaker Paul Ryan said, “This is further proof of the harm from unilateral tariffs. The best way to help American workers, consumers, and manufacturers is to open new markets for them, not to raise barriers to our own market.”

Unfortunately, Harley-Davidson will not be the only company in America forced to make this tough choice.

While some companies may not decide to shift production overseas, the other options they have to deal with—laying off workers, increasing prices, or delaying expansions—are all bad for American workers and families. The end result of increased tariffs will be a combination of qualified workers not getting hired, other workers losing their jobs, and families paying higher prices.

https://www.heritage.org/trade/commentary/trumps-tariffs-are-pushing-american-companies-leave

He could undermine our allies by working with the elites in those societies to work against economic gains for long standing citizens by tanking brexit and the like.

He got that already...

Brexit vote impact felt throughout UK economy
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain was the weakest Group of Seven economy over the course of 2017 in terms of overall growth, and there are other ways that the vote to leave the European Union has left its mark too.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...pact-felt-throughout-uk-economy-idUSKCN1GB1BY

He could help Russia by giving them control over 20% of our uranium....

Guess what...

Uranium oversupply to persist
Uranium miners will have to wait several more years before a price recovery takes hold, according to the latest forecasts from the World Nuclear Association.

https://www.mining-journal.com/events-coverage/news/1178661/uranium-oversupply-persist

But of course, they don't control it 20% of our uranium. One company now owns 20% of known deposits, but they have to mine it and get permission to ship it out of the United States. And there's a glut on the market.


Yep.
 

Foxfire

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Not everyone on the right are wearing blinders. Some understand that Rusia is not now and has never been our friend.

~Trey Gowdy;
"It can be proven beyond any evidentiary burden that Russia is not our friend and they tried to attack us in 2016,”

“I can tell you this, the president has access to every bit of evidence, even more than those of us who serve on House intel,” he said.

“He has access to Pompeo and Chris Wray and Dan Coats and Nikki Haley — the evidence is overwhelming. It can be proven beyond any evidentiary burden that Russia is not our friend and they tried to attack us in 2016,” Gowdy explained.

Gowdy said Trump needs to rely on his closest advisers — like Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley — or the advisers “need to re-evaluate whether or not they can serve in this administration.”

“But the disconnect cannot continue. The evidence is overwhelming and the president needs to say that and act like it,” Gowdy added.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/07/22/trey-gowdy-blisters-trump-over-russia-equivocation-suggests-advisers-re-evaluate-admin-roles
 

Rusha

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Foxfire

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:mock:
or was it? :think:

On Wednesday morning, in the midst of yet another contentious news cycle dominated by coverage of Russian election meddling, I tweeted a kind of thought experiment: “If Trump & co. just pivoted to ‘Aren’t you glad Russia helped us defeat Hillary Clinton?’ would there be any serious blowback from his base?”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/trump-voters-putin-russia/565592/?utm_source=fbb

The right is SOOOOO predictable. :rotfl:
 

ClimateSanity

New member
Not quite done, yet, but Trump's working on it:
Trump’s Tariffs Are Pushing American Companies to Leave
Harley-Davidson’s motto is “All for freedom. Freedom for all.” Today, however, the freedom to trade in America is deteriorating—and because of that, the iconic motorcycle manufacturer will be moving some of its production overseas.

The United States imposed tariffs of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent on aluminum in March. On June 1, America’s closest trading partners, including the European Union, became subject to the tariffs after President Donald Trump ended their exemption.

Now, the EU is retaliating by imposing tariffs on imports from the U.S., and Harley-Davidson is one of the unfortunate victims. Tariffs on its products are increasing from 6 percent to 31 percent. Harley-Davidson expects that this will increase the cost of a motorcycle exported from the U.S. to the EU by more than $2,000, resulting in annual additional costs of $90 million to $100 million.

When tariffs are imposed, companies affected, like Harley-Davidson, need to balance these extra costs to stay in business. The options are painful, but could include laying off workers, increasing prices, or delaying expansions.

In the case of Harley-Davidson, the company filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission to announce its plan to “shift production of motorcycles for EU destinations from the U.S. to its international facilities to avoid the tariff burden.”

In response to Harley-Davidson’s announcement, House Speaker Paul Ryan said, “This is further proof of the harm from unilateral tariffs. The best way to help American workers, consumers, and manufacturers is to open new markets for them, not to raise barriers to our own market.”

Unfortunately, Harley-Davidson will not be the only company in America forced to make this tough choice.

While some companies may not decide to shift production overseas, the other options they have to deal with—laying off workers, increasing prices, or delaying expansions—are all bad for American workers and families. The end result of increased tariffs will be a combination of qualified workers not getting hired, other workers losing their jobs, and families paying higher prices.

https://www.heritage.org/trade/commentary/trumps-tariffs-are-pushing-american-companies-leave



He got that already...

Brexit vote impact felt throughout UK economy
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain was the weakest Group of Seven economy over the course of 2017 in terms of overall growth, and there are other ways that the vote to leave the European Union has left its mark too.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...pact-felt-throughout-uk-economy-idUSKCN1GB1BY



Guess what...

Uranium oversupply to persist
Uranium miners will have to wait several more years before a price recovery takes hold, according to the latest forecasts from the World Nuclear Association.

https://www.mining-journal.com/events-coverage/news/1178661/uranium-oversupply-persist

But of course, they don't control it 20% of our uranium. One company now owns 20% of known deposits, but they have to mine it and get permission to ship it out of the United States. And there's a glut on the market.



Yep.

Are you denying Russia now has %20 control of our uranium stock and that the Obama administration was responsible for it?
 

Rusha

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So did Obama. For eight years.

Without Russian interference! :jawdrop:

Russia (Putin) would never support Obama or most of the past Presidents because they advocate for human rights and democracy.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond

i've been looking all over for that!

from your link:
a caller identified as Mary Lou from Connecticut said, “I’ll try not to sound too awful, but I want to thank the Russians for interfering with our election to stop Hillary Clinton from becoming president. That woman has got illusions of grandeur.”

:thumb:
 
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