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Gurucam

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Moses did not bring truth, only Jesus brought truth.

Moses did not bring truth, only Jesus brought truth.

According to the Bible (even the KJV version), God Himself gave the ten commandments to Moses after God Himself had spoken the ten commandments to the children of Israel gathered around the base of Mount Sinai.

Deuteronomy 10:4
4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the Lord spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the Lord gave them unto me.​


The Holy KJV N.T. says a different thing.

John, in the Holy KJV N.T. say that Moses gave the ten commandments.

The Holy KJV N.T. also says that Moses lied to the Jews when he gave them the ten commandments. Precisely the Holy KJV N.T. says that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ


The above also says that Moses did not bring truth. Only Jesus brought truth. The above does not stand alone.

The Holy KJV N.T., in another revelation, says (quite deliberately) that Moses did not speak the truth when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews. More precisely the Holy KJV N.T. says that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


The above says that Moses 'did not use great plainness of speech', 'he put a veil over his face' (i.e. Moses 'fooled-up') the Jews when he gave the Jews the ten commandments:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


'We use great plainness of speech, not as Moses who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished"

In the above 'we' is Jesus and Paul. 'We use great plainness of speech' is we Jesus and I, Paul) spoke the real truth.

In the above 'not as Moses, which put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished' is: Jesus and I were not like Moses, because we did not cover up an important fact about the ten commandments. Jesus and I did not cover-up the fact that the ten commandments must eventually be abolished (done away with).

The above says that Jesus and I (Paul) is telling you the truth which Moses did not tell when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews. The truth is that the ten commandments must eventually be abolished (i.e. done away with). Moses did not make this disclosure to the Jews when he gave the ten commandments. Therefore, until Jesus came to earth, in a human physical body all Jews sincerely believed that ten commandments were God's eternal laws that would never be abolished (i.e. done away with).

Therefore, as John confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T., the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God. Moses simply fooled-up' the Jews. Moses fooled up the Jews into believing that the ten commandments were from 'the Lord'. Moses did this so as to make the ten commandments more acceptable and enforceable, as laws of the land for the landless Jews way back when he (Moses) gave them the ten commandments.

The ten commandments and the ideas that the ten commandments were 'the laws of the Lord' has a long run. The ten commandments and the ideas that the ten commandments were 'the laws of the Lord' run in that manner until the advent of Jesus coming to earth in a human physical body, some 2000 odd years ago.

After that long run of the ten commandment, (2000 odd years ago) Jesus, John and Paul confirmed that:
1. the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God.
2. the ten commandments were found to be onto death,
3. the ten commandments were and are the ministration of death,
4. the ten commandments is him who had the power of death, that is the devil
5. Moses did not speak the plain truth when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews
6. it was intended, even when Moses gave the ten commandments, that the ten commandments would eventually be abolished. Therefore Moses gave the ten commandments and not God.
7. the time for abolishing (i.e. doing away with) the ten commandments was at hand.
8. ten commandments were done-away-with (abolished) by Jesus and replace with the Spirit of Jesus:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


The above says that 'the ministration of death that was written and engraved in stone was glorious and this glory was to be 'done-away'. 'the ministration of death that was written and engraved in stone is the ten commandments. The above is confirming that ten commandments which is the ministration of death (i.e. which killeth), was previously glorious, however this glory was now to be done away.

The above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. says that the ten commandments were originally glorious and remained glorious until Jesus came to earth in a human physical body. Then the glory of the ten commandments was to be ended. The ten commandments were to cease having its previous glory. They were to abolished/done away with.

The reason for the doing away with the glory of the ten commandments is that the ten commandments were found to be 'onto death', 'the ministration of death' and 'him who had the power of death that is the devil'. The plain fact is that all who, in the least manner, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are inevitably made 'the dead (who bury each other inside the earth, in hell). That is, all who, in the least manner, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments inevitably sin and fall short of the glory of God.

The above was realized in heaven, before the advent of Jesus coming to earth in a human physical body. This make it necessary for Jesus to come to earth, as He did, to destroy the ten commandments which was and continue to be, 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil':

Hebrews: 2 KJV N.T.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


In addition to the above, Jesus and others in heaven, knew that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he delivered the ten commandments. They knew that Moses gave the ten commandments and not God. They also knew that Moses did not tell the Jews that the ten commandments will eventually be abolished. Jesus came to tell the Jews and those other people these truths. Jesus also came to abolish/do away with, the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


Fact is, the glory of God's laws are never 'done-way-with'. God's laws are never abolished, i.e. God's laws are never 'done away with'/abolished. The above tells us that 'the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished'. "that which is abolished' is the ministration of death which was written and engraved in stone. This is the ten commandments.

The above says that the glory of the ten commandments was to be done away. This confirms that, although the Jews were told otherwise and believed other wise, the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God.

The ten commandments were Moses' laws and not God's laws. The Jews were simply 'fooled-up' by Moses (when he gave them the ten commandments) into believing that the ten commandments were God's eternal laws. This was done simply to have them (i.e. the Jews) obey the ten commandments with out the need for human policemen or human schoolmasters.

As people without a land they (i.e. the Jews) could have no formal institution of justice which include policemen or schoolmasters, etc.. Because of this, the ten commandments were given by Moses (their human leader) as their social and physical behavioral laws.

And because the landless Jews could have no formal (modern) system of enforcement and upholding these laws (i.e. the ten commandments which were their social laws) the idea that these laws (i.e. the ten commandments) were God's law was promoted by Moses, to add fear of transgressing, these laws.

God was linked to the ten commandments to enforce fear of transgressing these laws. The ten commandments was used in this manner, as a 'not seen' policeman/schoolmaster. The Jews knew that God was 'all knowing/all aware'.

Moses simply used this knowledge to rule the behavior of the Jews by fooling them into believing that the ten commandments were God's laws. In this way the Jews would believe that God will always know if and when they transgress the ten commandments and punishment will invariably follow. This made God the always present and always aware, not seen policeman.

And so, under fear of an all knowing God, the Jews will always obey the ten commandments which were essentially only social and civil laws. Moses simply used God to serve his management of his followers on his (Moses') terms. It was all a sham which Moses perpetrated on the Jews. However it was done with good intention ans for a good purpose.

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


Therefore the ten commandments and its way of policing the Jews worked o.k. as a system of managing the physical/carnal behavior of the Jews on earth. However the ten commandment proved to be a curse when it came to spiritual and eternal life and when it came to gaining entry to God's kingdom of heaven.

Fact is, the ten commandments were intended for permanent use. The ten commandments were intended to be used on the Jews only up until they became spiritually aware and Christians. Then the ten commandments were to be abolished (i.e. done-away-with).

Moses did not tell the Jews the above fact. Moses fool-up the Jews. And so the Jews (back then and up to this day) erroneously believe that the ten commandments were given by God and are God's eternal laws.

The truth, according to the Holy KJV N.T. is that Moses lied (he did not use great plainness of speech), when he gave the ten commandants. It was only when Jesus came in a human physical body that He bought the truth about the ten commandments. And even the, many Jews did not accept Jesus and his message of truth (especially about the ten commandments).

Fact is, 2000 odd years ago, it was time for truth about the ten commandments, to be given to all people who had the above false belief. It was time to tell the truth more openly. Jesus was given by God to tell these truths, through his own physical presence and then through Paul.

As you reported and posted, 'According to the Bible (even the KJV version), God Himself gave the ten commandments to Moses after God Himself had spoken the ten commandments to the children of Israel'. This is based on the words of Moses This is the O.T. belief which Moses created, no doubt about this fact. And this belief was left intact right up until Jesus came to earth, in a human physical body.

The Holy KJV N.T. confirm that Moses did not speak the truth when he gave the ten commandments. The Holy KJV N.T. says that Moses simply gave the ten commandments. The Holy KJV N.T. says that truth came with Jesus Christ. Moses did not bring or give truth. Therefore even though Moses words about the ten commandments are recorded in the O.T. and also in other pre-Jesus works, Jesus, Paul and the Holy KJV N.T. say very clearly that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he gave the ten commandments. to the Jews.

Therefore, according to the Holy KJV N.T., quoting Moses and what is recorded in the O.T., with respect to the ten commandments, is not reliable or true.

The Holy KJV N.T. says that: Moses did not bring truth, only Jesus brought truth. Moses simply gave the ten commandments and when Moses did so, he did not use great plainness of speech (Moses lied about the ten commandments):

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


It was not Moses' God given Job to bring truth. The Jews at that time was not given by God to know or get truth. It was Moses' God given job to simply manage the civil and physical behavior of the Jews back them.


It was only much later, after Moses gave the ten commandments, that any one in those parts were given by God to get truth. Then Jesus came to them to bring truth. This was the first time that truth came to the Jews and those other people (i.e. for the first time). And even then only the disciples were given by God to get and know truth. No one else qualified to get truth. And so Jesus delivered truth to only the disciples.


Since then and up to this day, from among all people who are seeking truth in that catchment of people, only a few were and are given by God to get and know truth. These are the chosen few who found the straight gate and narrow way:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Billions have fallen and will continue to fall, 'through the cracks' and 'by the way side'.


Now that is it clear that the O.T. and the N.T. say different things about the ten commandments, the question is which is the truth.

The next post will show that the Holy KJV N.T. bears truth and the O.T. does not bear truth.
 
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Gurucam

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Moses did not bring truth and the O.T. does not contain truth.

Moses did not bring truth and the O.T. does not contain truth.

Fact is, people, all other things on earth and earth, herself, goes through ages.

Moses came to earth around 3599 odd years ago.

Jesus came to earth around 2000 odd years ago.

These marked the time of the end of one period and the start of a new period. According to Prophet Daniel, at these times increased knowledge surface:

Daniel: 12 King James Version (KJV)
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


Moses heralded the closing of a previous age and the dawn of a new age This new age started some 3599 years ago and this age was based on the increased knowledge which Moses brought. This O.T/Mosaic/ten commandments age lasted for 1599 or so years. This is according to modern day calculations which may be flawed. The actual length of the age is not consequential for this post. What is very consequential is that people, things and the earth herself, go through ages. And the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments age ended when Jesus came to earth.

After Moses' age had had it run. Jesus came and heralded the close of Moses' Age and the dawn of a new age, based on the N.T./transgress the ten commandments/Christianity/Jesus.

Like Moses at his coming, when Jesus came he also brought increased knowledge, of a more advance level (than the increased knowledge which Moses brought at his coming). This increased knowledge included new knowledge which was that:
1. Moses did not bring truth and
2. that the ten commandments were given by Moses and not God and
3. that the ten commandments were not founded on truth and
4. that the ten commandments were not God's laws of righteousness, but Moses ' laws of righteousness.

Fact is, the Holy KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that, Moses did not bring truth. In fact, the Holy KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that, Moses lied. Moses simply gave the ten commandments and hid the truth. The Holy KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that, Jesus brought truth.

The following confirms that the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven (i.e. truth) was hid from those people, until Jesus came among them and even then, the mysteries of God' kingdom of heaven, which is truth, was given by Jesus to only the disciples/saints of that time:

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:


In the above 'saints' are Christians. There were no Christians before the advent of Jesus on earth, as a man. The O.T. will not and do not contain the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven which are 'all truth'. Also the mysteries of God's kingdom which were hid, before, was given by Jesus to only the disciples 2000 odd years ago.

No one else (apart form the twelve disciples) got these mysteries from Jesus. The masses did not get these mysteries. The masses were simply not given by God to get these mysteries. So Jesus simply bluff and fool-up the masses with parables. The sad irony is that billions of traditional Christians and Catholics esteem, use, invoke and/or promote parables:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.


Fact is, truth came only with Jesus. Moses did not bring truth. When Moses was here, those people were not given by God to know and get truth. They were all 'the dead' and the dead are not given by God to know or get truth. Because of this, Moses' God given mission was not to bring truth. Moses' God given mission was simply to give the ten commandments for regulating the civil and physical behavior of his followers. Moses did this, any which way, even by fooling-up the Jews.

The advent of Moses, the O.T and the ten commandments started 3599 odd years ago and ended 2000 odd years ago, with the advent of Jesus.

Therefore 2000 odd years ago,the old Mosaic age ended and a new age started. This was when it now became given by God for some of those people to know and get truth. This is when Jesus came to bring truth. This new age started 2000 odd years ago. This is the start of the Age of Christianity.

This means that the Holy KJV N.T. contains truth and the O.T. does not contain truth.

The focus of Moses and the O.T. was not to bring truth but to, any which way, manage people who were spiritually dead and therefore not given by God to know or get truth.

On the other hand, 1399 odd years later, (which was 2000 or so years ago) it was given by God for Jesus to come among those people and bring truth, for the first time. This was necessary because some of them would ceased being 'the dead' and become spiritually aware. They would have to cease being led by their flesh and the ten commandments and, instead, start transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

Therefore only Jesus' and Paul's messages and the Holy KJV N.T. contain truth. Truth came only with Jesus. The focus of Jesus and Paul was to bring truth. This is the focus of Jesus, Paul and the Holy KJV N.T.. It is here and only her one will find truth.

On the other hand, Moses messages and the O.T. do not in any way contain truth. This was not the focus of Moses, the ten commandments and the O.T..

The O.T. and the N.T. have conflicting revelations about the ten commandments. If one is seeking truth about the ten commandments, this will be found only in the Holy KJV N.T.

Moses, the O.T., and the ten commandments were not focused on and were not about truth (which delivers one to God's kingdom of heaven). This knowledge was simply too 'high' for those people at that time. At time the aim was to simply regulate and control the physical/carnal behavior of those people.

The opportunity for those people to come to know and get truth was to come much much later, with the advent of Jesus, i.e. when the time was right, i.e. when some of them became given by God to know and get truth (the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven).

Truth was made available to those people only through the Spirit of Truth who bring ALL Truth. This Spirit was made available only after Jesus came to earth, as a man, was crucified and then rose to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body.

Prior to this the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven (i.e. truth) was total hidden from and not available to, those people. Clearly the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven which are All Truth would not be found in any scriptures or manuscripts etc. that relates to those people and that also predates the advent of Jesus on earth, in a human physical body, 2000 odd years ago.

The simple revelation is, do not look for truth in the O.T. or in any other old manuscript that predated Jesus. Truth will not be found there or in those old things.

Therefore the Bible records two different times of the end. And at each of times of the end, 'the words' which was 'shut-up' and sealed in the book, surfaced as increased knowledge.

First, some 3599 odd years ago, Moses came and he revealed increased knowledge that were previously shut-up and sealed. This heralded the age of the O.T./Moses/the ten commandments.

Then came Jesus, 2000 odd years ago, and He revealed increased knowledge that was previously shut-up and sealed during the age of Moses, the O.T. and the ten commandments. This heralded the age of truth and Christianity and the physical Jesus.

The above successions of ages was totally according to the declaration of Prophet Daniel:

Daniel: 12 King James Version (KJV)
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


Fact is we have entered a new age, another one. Recently the time of the end of the age of the written Holy KJV N.T. and the physical Jesus came to an end.

We entered another new age. In this new age, Enlightenment in Christ rules. This is the age of rule under the Spirit of Jesus without any written scriptures. This age has no regard for the things which ruled during the past 2 ages.

At the dawn of this age Jesus will return as the Spirit of Jesus and judge humans and dispatch them to hell, inside the earth or to heaven on earth or in the spirit realm.

God's righteous for each person will be unique (different). To be able to live on earth each humans must be able to serve in the newness of spirit.

This means that each person must have the actualization to discern the Spirit of Jesus within his or her own heart/spirit in real time, all the time. And then be led in real time, all the time and unconditionally (even if he or she has to transgress the ten commandments) into all his/her works, by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him/her to know, pray for, say and do.

The above is to live in enlightenment in Christ. This is the requirement for living on the surface of earth in the recently dawned new age. The above defines righteousness for those who are enlightened in Christ. This is the only way of life that will be permitted, under grace of God, in this new age, on earth.

The chips are down. Judgement day is at hand. Jesus has already gathered all nations and separated them into sheep and goats, according to how and to what, they soweth, while they lived physically on earth. The next step is to help sheep to inherit the surface of earth in God's kingdom of heaven and to dispatch goats to hell inside the earth.

The third age, which is the Age of Enlightenment in Christ, is at hand.

Now the written O.T. and the written N.T. are no longer relevant. These to things what were glorious in their respective times are totally out of here, in this newest age.

Now only the Spirit of Truth who is also the Spirit of Jesus and the Spirit of Intercession rules here. Only this Spirit of Truth will pass all knowledge (i.e. All Truth) to those who can connect to him (i.e. the Spirit of Truth) through each of their own hearts/spirit.

Only the spiritually aware/spiritually actualized can have this (essentially intuitive/spirit) capacity. Only they will be able to survive on the surface of earth in this new age when they can and do live in the above manner.

Genuineoriginal, you are dabbling and stuck, in the very old age of the O.T./Moses/the ten commandments.

You have not even yet embraced the second age which is the age of the N.T./transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit/Christian/Jesus.

Now the third age is at hand. This is the age of spirituality. In this age the world will be ruled by the Spirit of Jesus who must be detected and known only through one own spirit/heart. It was confirmed 2000 odd years ago that any one who, in the least manner, choose to esteem, use, invoke and/or promoted the ten commandments, is totally denied the spiritual actualization to be relevant for this new age of Enlightenment in Christ.

Genuineoriginal, you never learned to and never did soweth to your own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus. Instead you choose to soweth to flesh and the ten commandments:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


'Due season' is at hand. Jesus is here and ruling as the Spirit of Jesus. Since 2000 odd years ago it was clearly stated in the Holy KJV N.T., that, now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is the Spirit of Jesus and where this Spirit is their is liberty to transgress the ten commandment.

Jesus came to lift humans to intuitive/spiritual preparedness for the Age of Enlightenment in Christ, that has now dawned.

For the past 2000 odd years foolish people like you have ignored and corrupted the above Christian truth because you all delighted in the ideas of the very old O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments age.

You sacrificed the N.T./Christian/Jesus system at the alter of the O.T./Mosaic. ten commandments system. This has impacted only you, your followers and your like ancestors.

Now you, like every one else, will now face the consequences of your choices.

Genuineoriginal you are so far behind and so very lost.
 
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Gurucam

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Bottom line: Truth came with Jesus. Moses delivered untruths.

Bottom line: Truth came with Jesus. Moses delivered untruths.

Truth came with Jesus. Moses delivered untruths. This makes all scriptures, manuscripts, etc., which predated Jesus coming to earth in a human physical body, suspect and not reliable as a source for truth.

This means that, if the Holy KJV N.T. and the O.T. differs in any thing (like it differs with respect to the the ten commandments and things related to the ten commandments), then there is only one option for seekers of truth. That is, if one is interested in truth, only the revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. must be accepted and used. This is the bottom line, every thing else is grave and terminal folly.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ


The above also says that Moses did not bring truth. Only Jesus brought truth. However although Moses did not bring truth, he gave the ten commandments. However billions believe that the ten commandments are 'about truth'. This means that: Moses must have given the ten commandments with deceptions. This means that Moses fooled-up the Jew when gave the ten commandments. This conclusion does does not stand alone.

The Holy KJV N.T., in another revelation, says (quite deliberately) that Moses did not speak the truth when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews.

More precisely the Holy KJV N.T. says that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


The above says that Moses 'did not use great plainness of speech', 'he put a veil over his face' (i.e. Moses 'fooled-up') the Jews when he gave the Jews the ten commandments. Moses did not tell the Jews that the ten commandments would eventually have to be 'done-away-with'. This says that the ten commandments were not God's eternal laws. This says that ten commandments were given by Moses and the ten commandments were not from God. Fact is God's ;laws are never 'done-away-with':

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


Are you going to continue to defy Jesus, John and the Holy KJV N.T.?

Are you going to continue to defy Jesus, John and the Holy KJV N.T., simply because you are an unawares (i.e. a spiritually dead person) who delight in the ten commandments and choose to esteem, use invoke and/or promote the ten commandments?

Why would you want to be an unawares (i.e. a spiritually dead person) false spying brethren who is in the practice of returning aspiring Christians and Christians (who have God given liberty to transgress the ten commandments), to bondage under the ten commandments which were clearly declared by Jesus to be a curse?

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:


Christians are seekers, knowers and doers, of truth. Therefore for aspiring Christians and Christians, the above revelations should put a total end to (i.e. a total dismissal of) the O.T., the ten commandments and all other things related to Moses and the Jewish system.

The idea of 'a full gospel church' (meaning a church which esteems, uses. invokes and/or promote both the O.T. and the N.T.), is under the control of false prophets and that church is total foolishness.
 
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Gurucam

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Why would billions willfully want to among the unawares false spying brethren?

Why would billions willfully want to among the unawares false spying brethren?

Why would you want to be an unawares (i.e. a spiritually dead person) false spying brethren who is in the practice of returning aspiring Christians and Christians (who have God given liberty to transgress the ten commandments), to bondage under the ten commandments which were clearly declared by Jesus to be a curse?

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:


Additionally, the ten commandments were clearly identified to be, 'the ministration of death'. The ten commandments are 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'. And Jesus came expressly to destroy (i.e. do-away-with) the ten commandments (which is him who had the power of death, that is the devil). And Jesus did, indeed, do-away-with the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit.

Why are you serving the antichrist/the devil/Satan?

Did you not heed the warning:

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.


The above revelation says that one is very free to quote any thing that is said any where, about the ten commandments. However whatsoever those things say about the ten commandments is applicable only to those who choose to be under the ten commandments. The above also say that any one who deny this revelation will be judged guilty before God and will experience the wrath of God.

The above revelations says that all things about the ten commandments, do not apply to aspiring Christians and Christians. This is because aspiring Christians and Christians are under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus and under this law one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit, in harmony with the Spirit of Jesus.

Fact is the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus makes one free from the law of sin and death, which are the ten commandments:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death


Also there can be and is, no doubt that the ten commandments are 'the law of sin and death'.

The ten commandments are the laws of sin because everyone who, in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, invariably sin and fall short of the glory of God.

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The following also say that the ten commandments are the 'law of sin'. The following also say that: 'when we were in the flesh' we were held under the ten commandments. 'When we were in the flesh' is to be dead to our own heart/spirit. This is to be aware of only our flesh. This is to be 'the dead' in Jesus instruction 'let the dead who bury their dead':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


Two things must be critically noted in the above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T.:
1. the motion of sin, which were by the law.
2. the law, which is being spoken about here, is the 'thou shalt not covet' commandments (and by extension all the ten commandments).

The following say that the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment (and by extension all the ten commandments) are the law of sin. The following says that the ten commandments are 'the ministration of death' and they were done away with by Jesus and replace by His Spirit:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


Therefore, without a doubt, the Holy KJV N.T. say that: the ten commandments are the law of sin and death.

Therefore:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death


Therefore the above is the exactly the same as:

The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the ten commandments.

How much clearer must it be stated to appease you blundering foolish people who corruptly promote that the ten commandments are a part of Christianity?

You guys (who even in the least manner), esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, are all made and kept spiritually dead and deprived of communion with the Spirit of Jesus, (who since 2000 odd years age, is the Lord for aspiring Christians and Christians). The physical Jesus was and is, not the Lord.

Also, all of you who, even in the least manner, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, (all) sin and (all) fall short of the glory of God.

You guys are, all, dragging yourselves to hell. You are all totally depriving yourselves, by your own free choice, of joining Jesus in heaven. The path to joining Jesus in heaven is to soweth to Spirit while you physically live on earth. To soweth to Spirit is to 'serve in the newness of spirit'.

'To serve in the newness of spirit' is to discern the Spirit of Jesus (Who is also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession) within your own heart/spirit. This require you to be spiritually awaken/spiritually aware (i.e. awakened to/aware of, your own heart/spirit).

The sad fact is that, if you esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even in the littlest manner, you are make and kept totally dead to your own heart/spirit. This means that your heart/spirit is 'waxed gross' (i.e. covered-over). This means that you cannot have communion with the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession (who can be accessed only through one's heart/spirit).

Therefore 'to serve in the newness of spirit' is addressed only to those who can in fact, 'serve in the newness of spirit'. 'To serve in the newness of spirit' is the instruction to newly and even old, spiritually awakened/spiritually aware people. These are 'born again' people. These instruction are not for 'the dead' (i.e. one who is still 'dead' to his/her own heart/spirit. The dead, because of their their carnal nature will discern wisdom in the ten commandments.

Therefore the first requirement for 'serving in the newness of spirit' is to be awakened to and aware of one's own heart/spirit. The sad fact is that being under the ten commandments deprives one of this actualization. Therefore, the actual first requirement is to drop the ten commandments.

Then one can awaken to and become aware of one's own heart/spirit. Only then can one 'serve in the newness of spirit'.

Serving in the newness of spirit' is not simply to led by one's own spirit. This is anchored in the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus enables one to very freely and liberally serve one's own spirit/heart in perfect harmony with the real time, will of God.

The above is achieved when one search one's own heart and discern and commune with the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession within one's own heart/spirit (i.e. when it is no longer 'waxed gross'). More precisely, one must search one's own heart/spirit and discern (in real time, all the time), so as to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, in real time all the time.

It has been clearly stated that since, 2000 odd years ago, the Lord is the Spirit of Jesus who s also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


'Serving in the newness of spirit' is how one enables the Lord who since 2000 odd years ago is the Spirit of Jesus to be one's Lord. Since 2000 odd years ago, the Lord for aspiring Christians and Christians, is the Spirit of Jesus and not at all the physical Jesus or Moses or the ten commandments, etc.. This is the essential, basis of the new covenant/New Testament. It is all and totally spirit and Spirit based.

The ideas of 'serving in the newness of spirit' is about serving through one's own heart/spirit. This is as follows:

To reiterate, in order to 'serve in the newness of spirit' one must embrace the Spirit of Jesus who is the Lord, since 2000 odd years ago. The first step is to abandon the ten commandments so as to become awakened to and aware of one's own heart/spirit. Then one one must search one's own heart/spirit and discern the Spirit of Jesus (who is also the Spirit of Truth).

We are told that Jesus is the truth, the way and the life:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


Therefore the Spirit of Truth is the Spirit of Jesus.

We are told, also that:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.


The above tell us that after the crucifixion of the physical body of Jesus, He shed that physical body and rose to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body. Jesus clad only in His Spirit body is the Spirit of Jesus. And since 2000 odd years ago, in this (Spirit only) format Jesus is Lord who resides in spirit heaven. And in this format and from spirit heaven, as the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, Jesus is the Lord for Christians. Since 2000 odd years ago we were told that the physical Jesus was redundant.

Further to this we are told through John, that, the Spirit of Truth bring 'All Truth'. It is also confirmed that the physical Jesus had to be crucified and be risen to spirit heaven (clad only in His Spirit body), three day after, in order for the Spirit of Truth to become available to provide All Truth:

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


The above say that, Jesus in His second coming among those people, is not physical, It is as a Spirit who is the Spirit of Truth Who is actually the Spirit of Jesus. Jesus told his disciples in a very private session among only them that, it was expedient that he go away (by crucifixion and rise to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit body), so that Spirit of Truth will come (i.e. be made available to those people.

We are also told that the kingdom of God is within us:

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.


We are told that Jesus rose to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit real in three day after he was crucified. We are told also that Jesus rose to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit body, as the Spirit of Jesus. We are told that God's kingdom of heaven is within.

Therefore to find Jesus, to commune with, to know Jesus, to be known to Jesus, to be informed by and to be led by, Jesus, one is instructed to search one's own heart/spirit so as to come to know precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


In the above the 'Spirit' Who make intercession is the Spirit of Jesus, Who is also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession. This is because no one come onto God, (Who is the Holy Spirit) unless one goes through Jesus and Jesus is only in a Spirit format since 2000 odd years ago. And in this Spirit only format and from God's kingdom of heaven that is within us this Spirit of Jesus is our Lord since 2000 odd years ago.

Therefore the entire system of Christianity is anchored on only the Spirit of Jesus who must be known and communed with (in real time, all the time) only through our own hearts/spirits. Jesus is the truth therefore His Spirit is the Spirit of Truth. We are told that the Spirit of Truth bring "All Truth". This tells us that no truth is available though physically spoken and physically written words.

The written scriptures and all physically spoken and physically posted words can be used only to convey the above message. This message is that in order to become a child of God/a Saint/a Christians one has to get all one's information directly from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth though one's own hearts/spirits.

Billions of deceived people are esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting written scriptures, as their source of truth. They are doing this under the false beliefs that this can make them Christians. They are under the mass deception, which for the past 2000 odd yeas have been perpetrated on them, by foolish, unawares, false prophets. They are under mass deception that they are Christians. They are not in the body of Christ and their assembly is not the body of Christ.

Billions of people foolishly and falsely believe that they are Christians. They are not N.T./spirit and Spirit/anti-the ten commandments/Christian/Jesus people. They have been duped onto being O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people.

Christianity is totally a spiritual tradition. Christians/children of God cannot and do not use any physically spoken words, physically written words or physical post, period.

Christians get all their guiding instructions and information, intuitively/spiritually, in real time, all the time, (as needed) directly and individually from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth, through each of their own hearts/spirit.

Precisely what Christians/children of God do is to search each of their own hearts/spirits, in real time, all the time, to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do (in real time, all the time). Then, they simply and unconditionally obey this information and instruction, in real time, all the time, even if they have to transgress the ten commandments. This is the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. This is also how one 'serves in the newness of spirit'.

Of course in order to have the actualization to do the above (i.e. to live in this Christian way), one must first be awakened to/aware of, one's own heart/spirit. If one esteems, uses, invokes and/or promotes the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner, one is make and kept spiritually dead and one cannot even attempt to have the above life, which is the only Christian life.

Fact is, a spiritually dead person (i.e. 'the dead' in Jesus' instruction, 'let the dead bury their dead') cannot perceived this Christian life which is totally spirit and Spirit based. In order to perceive this spirit and Spirit based life style on must have the 'eyes to see' 'the ears to hear' and the 'hearts to understand'.

The above are extra physical faculties. These are faculties of our spirit body and they operate intuitively (beyond our physical senses). In order for these faculties to be actualized and functional, one must be awakened to one's own heart/spirit. Those who in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are made and kept 'dead' to their own hearts/spirits. They simply do not have the 'eyes to see' 'the ears to hear' and the 'hearts to understand'. They are doomed from the start. They cannot be Christians.

By nature, the dead, will discern wisdom in the ten commandments, as their righteousness. They are Satans. They cannot rise to things of God which are spiritual and not physical and of man.

'The dead' (who are also called Satans) will never come around to Christianity which is totally anti-the ten commandments and totally spirit and Spirit based with God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments.

Billions of these people foolishly believe and argue that the ten commandments are a part of Christianity. Clearly they cannot be and are not, the chosen few who found the straight gate and narrow way:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.


The above say that the requirements to be among the chosen few Christians is very very tight. From among billions, only a chosen few can and will make it. There is no room to believe, esteem, invoke and/or promote, even a little bit of foolishness/error and still be chosen. Fact is, the gate is straight and the way narrow.

Billions of foolish ideas abound every where, as Christianity.

A billion or so traditional Christians and a billion or so Catholics all share the basic ideas about Christianity. They also, all believe that they are Christians/children of God. Clearly they cannot be the chosen few who have found the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to eternal life, Christianity and delivery to God's kingdom of heaven.

Clearly it time for a billion or so traditional Christians and a billion or so Catholics to wake-up from the very serious and terminal folly/deception which they hold to be Christianity. It is time for them to awaken to the truth that their most prized leaders were and continue to be false prophets and unawares, false spying brethren.

Primarily, it is time to accept that Jesus' words when He identified Peter to be Satan.

More precisely, it is time to stop 'going with' (supporting) the self-made-up ideas of Peter/Satan and Co. which seek to deny and explain-away Jesus' clear and actual words about Peter.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.


You guys are so used to corrupting the revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. simply to have them force-fit the ideas of Satan/Peter, his popes and your own selves. This totally deny all of you, access to truth in the Holy KJV N.T.

Satan/Peter and his succession of popes are responsible for the ideas which anchor what has passed for Christianity for the past 2000 odd years and this is all, Anti-the Holy KJV N.T., corruption and foolishness.

. . . and so be it.
 
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Gurucam

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How does one identify the Spirit of Jesus within our own heart/spirit?

How does one identify the Spirit of Jesus within our own heart/spirit?

We are told to search each of own hearts/spirits and discern the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, within each of our own hearts/spirits.

Then be led into all of our works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of to know, pray for, say and do, even if we have to transgress the ten commandments.

The above defines the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus and under this law one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments.

Therefore what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do will not involve upholding the ten commandments. In fact what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do (as discerned with each of our own hearts/spirits), will require one to transgress the ten commandments.

The question is, apart from requiring one to transgress the ten commandments, How does one identify the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, within each of our own heart/spirit?

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death


The above say that, the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus makes one free for the ten commandments.
We are also told the following:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


In the above the 'Spirit' Who make intercession is the Spirit of Jesus, Who is also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession. This is because no one come onto God, (Who is the Holy Spirit) unless one goes through Jesus and Jesus is only in a Spirit format since 2000 odd years ago. And in this Spirit only format and from God's kingdom of heaven that is within us this Spirit of Jesus is our Lord since 2000 odd years ago.

Therefore the entire system of Christianity is anchored on only the Spirit of Jesus who must be known and communed with (in real time, all the time) only through our own hearts/spirits, by searching each of our own hearts/spirits.

The question is, precisely what is it that Christians/children of God do that makes them Christians/children of God/Saints?

Fact is their lifestyle is anchored on is to searching each of their own hearts/spirits, in real time, all the time, to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do (in real time, all the time). Then, they simply and unconditionally obey this information and instruction, in real time, all the time, even if they have to transgress the ten commandments. This is the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. This is also how one 'serves in the newness of spirit'.

Of course in order to have the actualization to do the above (i.e. to live in this Christian way), one must first be awakened to/aware of, one's own heart/spirit. If one esteems, uses, invokes and/or promotes the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner, one is make and kept spiritually dead and one cannot even attempt to have the above life, which is the only Christian life.

The next most important question is, according to the Holy KJV N.T., precisely how does one one identify and recognized the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession within one's own heart/spirit?

This will be answered, here, very precisely, in a short while.
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Gurucam

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Christianity is about transgressing the ten commandments so as to obey love.

Christianity is about transgressing the ten commandments so as to obey love.

Christianity is about unreservedly and deliberately transgressing the ten commandments, so as to obey love, unconditionally. This is because God is Love and God has nothing to do with the ten commandments.

The ten commandments were given by Moses and not God:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus


The above say that Moses did not bring truth. He simply gave the ten commandments. Jesus brought truth, 2000 odd years ago.

Moses lied (he did not bring truth) when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews. Moses did not speak the truth, which is that the ten commandments were given by him and not God and that the ten commandments were not God's eternal laws because the ten commandments must eventually be-done-away with (i.e. abolished):

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away (i.e. abolished):
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


God is the anchor of the Christian (spiritual) tradition, where as Moses is the anchor of the Mosaic/Jewish religion. The ten commandments were given by Moses and not God. Where as the Will/Spirit of God comes to humans as Love's urging, through the Spirit of Jesus as discerned within one's own heart/spirit.

We are instructed as follows:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death


The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus makes one free from the ten commandments.

The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus is anchored on transgressing the ten commandment so as to be led, unconditionally, by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do . . . as discerned within one's own heart/spirit.

The question is, apart from requiring one to transgress the ten commandments, How does one identify the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, within each of our own heart/spirit?

The above say that the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession makes intercession for Saints according to the will of God. (Saints are Christians).

Fact is we are told that God is Love. The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit and this is also the Spirit of Love. The will of God is about in Love. The Will or Spirit of God is anchored in 'love':

1 John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


Therefore' apart from the fact that the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession will require one to transgress the ten commandments, the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession will require one to transgress the ten commandments so as to unconditionally, obey love which arises and is sustained within one's own heart/spirit for people, things and circumstances in the creation. For this is how the Will of God is detected and known within one's own heart/spirit.

To be 'the dead' is to be unaware of one's own heart/spirit. This is to be dead to love, because love is not a thing of the flesh. Love is the essential fabric of both one's own heart/spirit, the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. Love/God is a spirit and Spirit thing and not a thing of the flesh.

An O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments person is essentially 'the dead'. Such a one cannot be aware of love. Such a one will, by nature, discern wisdom in obeying laws, like the ten commandments, before obeying love, unconditionally or any other way.

It will be totally opposite for N.T./Christian/spirit and Spirit/Jesus people. They naturally and spontaneously transgress the ten commandments and all other laws so as to unconditionally obey love.

There are no laws in spirit heaven, only love. In spirit heaven one is led unconditionally by love.

We have long awaited the coming to earth of God's kingdom, as it is in spirit heaven. When God's kingdom, as it is in spirit heaven, comes to the surface of earth, the surface of earth becomes conformed to Jesus' kingdom. Then only those humans who are well practiced in transgressing the ten commandments and all other ideals and laws, so as to unconditionally obey love, will be permitted on earth:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in (spirit) heaven.

 
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Gurucam

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The big question is, how do we know when something is accordding to the will of God?

The big question is, how do we know when something is accordding to the will of God?

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


The above says that, what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of to know, pray for, say and do is according to the will the God. However this has to be discerned within each of our own hearts.

Therefore what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within each of our own hearts, at any point in time, has a component of the will of God.

Clearly, not only what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of use to know, pray for say and do is discerned within our own heart. Fact is, because of our infirmities, there are lots of other things that urges us within our hearts. This is confirmed as follows:

Matthew: 15 King James Version (KJV)
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:


The above defines the infirmities of our hearts. However, the revelation above, which is about our hearts says that, the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession help us with the infirmities of our heart.

We are told to search our hearts, to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of use to know, pray for say and do.

More precisely, the above say that when we led into all our works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of use to know, pray for say and do, we are delivered from the infirmities of our heart.

Therefore the question is, when we search each of our hearts, how do we know precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of use to know, pray for say and do, as opposed to the infirmities of our hearts.

This discernment is helped by the fact that what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of use to know, pray for say and do is according to the Will/Spirit of God.

The fact that what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of to know, pray for, say and do, has a component of the will of God, is very important.

If we know how how to discern the Will/Spirit of God, this can help us to focus on and discern, precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of to know, pray for, say and do, when we search out hearts/spirits.

The above knowledge will help us to separate what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of use to know, pray for say and do, from the infirmities of our heart.

Fact is, what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of use to know, pray for say and do, as discerned within our heart, has the component of the Will/Spirit of God, where as the infirmities of our heart do not have this component.

It is therefore necessary to recognize the Will/Spirit of God within the Spirit of Jesus, within our hearts.

However it is very critically important to know that the will of God is not that we esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. This is because when one is led by the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments. In fact, one will be required to transgress the ten commandments. This is the truth as delivered by Jesus (who brought truth), 2000 odd years ago.

We are told by John that Moses gave the ten commandments, not God.

According to John, in the Holy KJV N.T., Jesus brought truth. We are told that Moses did not bring truth. In fact, we are told that Moses lied when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews. He did not tell them that he gave the ten commandments and he did not tell them that the ten commandments are not God's eternal laws. He did not tell them that the ten commandments must eventually be done-away-with. Therefore 'according to the will of God' does not, at all, means esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments.

In order to know what is "according to the will of God", one must know who or what is God. The following says that God is love:

1 John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


To live 'according to the will of God' is to live according to the urging of love which arises and is sustained, naturally and spontaneously within each of our hearts/spirit for those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation, even if we have to transgress the ten commandments. According to the Holy KJV N.T., this is the one and only, anchor of Christianity.

More details will be provided.

 
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genuineoriginal

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Truth came with Jesus. Moses delivered untruths.
Jesus did not know that Moses delivered untruths because He didn't have you to tell Him that.

John 5:45-46
45 [JESUS]Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.[/JESUS]
46 [JESUS]For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.[/JESUS]​

 

Gurucam

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How do Christians do the will of God? . . . not by upholding the ten commandments!

How do Christians do the will of God? . . . not by upholding the ten commandments!

How do Christians do the will of God?

Know for sure that that the Holy KJV N.T. say the following:

1.) The ten commandments were given to the Jew, by Moses (not God).

2.) Moses did not bring truth. Only Jesus brought truth to those people and this was just 2000 odd yeas ago.

3.) Moses did not tell the truth about the ten commandments. Moses lied about the fact that he, and not God, gave the ten commandments.

4.) Moses lied about (did not disclose) the fact that the ten commandments are not any eternal laws. Moses fooled-up the Jews into believing that the ten commandments are God's eternal laws.

5.) Moses did not tell the Jews that the ten commandments must, eventually, be done-away-with (abolished)

6.) 2000 odd years ago, Jesus did-away-with (abolish) the ten commandments and replace them (i.e. the ten commandments) with His Spirit.

7.) And where the Spirit of Jesus is, there is God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments.

8.) Prior to the advent of Jesus on earth in a human physical body and also prior to the Holy KJV N.T., none of those people (the Jews etc.) were given by God to know or get truth.

9.) Prior to the advent of Jesus on earth in a human physical body and also prior to the Holy KJV N.T., 'Truth' which are 'the words', were shut-up and sealed.

10.) It was only at the time of the end of Moses and his ideals and laws (i.e. the ten commandments) that truth came to those people, when Jesus came among them. This marked the end of time of the Mosaic period and the dawn of the Christian period.

11.) At the above point in time, 'the words' (i.e. truth) which were previously 'shut-up, sealed and hid from those people, surfaced as increased knowledge, brought by Jesus.

12.) 2000 odd years ago, a most important part of 'the words' or 'truth', which were were (previously 'shut-up, sealed and hid from those people) and which were then made available to those peoples is: the fact that Moses did not bring truth, the ten commandments are not from God but were given By Moses. And the ten commandments must be done away with (abolished). And the ten commandments were done away with (abolished) by Jesus and replaced with His Spirit.

13.) The ten commandments were found to be 'onto death'.

14.) The ten commandments were declared to be 'the ministration of death'.

15.) The ten commandments were confirmed to be, 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'.

16.) The ten commandments were a curse.

16.) Everyone who, even in the least manner, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are not chosen. They do not make it. They are all made and kept 'the dead'. They all sin. They all fall short of the glory of God. They are all delivered to hell, when they die physical.

17.) Only the Spirit of Jesus gives eternal life and delivery to God's kingdom of heaven.

18.) The ten commandments cannot and do not (in any way) offer or give one the opportunity to gain eternal life and delivery to God's kingdom heaven.

19. The ten commandments ensures (guarantees) that one is make and kept spiritually dead (i.e. denied of eternal life) and also ensures that one is delivered to hell.

All of the above are totally and literally supported by revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.

Therefore since the advent of Jesus, the Holy KJV N.T. and Christianity, the truth, especially about the ten commandments were brought by Jesus and others with total clarity. And this was very damning and dismissing, for the ten commandments.

Clearly, according to Jesus, the Holy KJV N.T. and Christianity, the ten commandments are not God's laws and they are done away with and a curse for those who are seeking to be Christians who want to inherit God's kingdom of heaven.

According to Jesus, the Holy KJV N.T. and Christianity, doing the will of God has nothing to do with esteeming, using, upholding and/or promoting the ten commandments. In fact doing the will of God has to do with transgressing the ten commandments so as to be led, unconditionally by the Spirit of Jesus, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit.

The 'thou shalt not kill' (murder) commandment is solely a law of our land. This is not a law from God. Protection for being murdered' can be and must be offered only through the police and judicial system of one's country.

Being physically killed relates to our man/physical side and not our spirit side. This is a thing of man and not a thing of God. This is essentially a thing of Caesar. God does not esteem the ideas of preserving our physical life. Only man do this:

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.


It is Satanic to savor the things of man and not the things of God. One's physical life is a thing of man. One's spirit life is a thing of God. Preserving one's physical life is not a thing of interest to God. However preserving one's spirit life is totally of interest to God.

In fact, the Holy KJV N.T. suggest that one looses one's life in order to achieved spiritual awareness.

The above say that, one must be willing to and even, give-up one's physical life in order to earn spiritual awareness, spiritual actualization and eternal life.

Jesus (who brought Truth) separated the ten commandments from God and declared it clearly as something which Moses gave for the civil and physical behavior management of the Jews.

According to Jesus, protection from being murdered is the sole responsibility of Caesar, That is, protection form physical death is the responsibility of the police and judicial system of one's country. This is where the ten commandments must hold its influences. The ten commandment have absolutely no place in the spiritual tradition, that is Christianity.
 
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Gurucam

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John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life and no one come onto God but through me".

Jews try to squeeze in Moses by disclaiming the above. They try to promote that Moses, also brought truth and that one can come onto God through Moses, as well.

They have this aim to elevate Moses, any which way.

Please beware of Jews and others who are pretending to be Christians but are O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people.

The sad fact is Jesus, himself says that only He is the truth, the way and the life and one can come onto God only through Him.

John said that Moses simply gave the law, but truth came by Jesus:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ


The Holy KJV N.T., not I, says that Moses did not use great plainness of speeech (i.e. he hid the truth, he lied) when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


Clearly Jesus, by His own words, has confirmed that only He brought truth and only He can bring you or anyone else to God. According to Jesus and the Holy KJV N.T., Moses, his ten commandments and the O.T. is not the truth, did not bring or have truth and they cannot bring anyone onto God.

If one wish to follow Jesus one has to accept the above.

If one believes that Moses brought truth and that Moses can bring one onto God, one is clearly not believing Jesus and is also deliberately denying and persecuting Jesus.

The above does not stand alone.

Fact is, the above is simply one among many revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. which confirm that Moses did not bring truth. Only Jesus brought truth.

Readers, Genuineoriginal is clearly a pretend Christian and not to be trusted.
 
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Gurucam

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Why would your guys tolerate Genuineoriginal who is serving Satan/the Antichrist.

Why would your guys tolerate Genuineoriginal who is serving Satan/the Antichrist.

It is very clearly and literally said in the Holy KJV N.T. that billions will seek to be Christians, however only a chosen few will find the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth onto eternal life, Christianity and delivery into God's kingdom of heaven.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Yet there are millions of Tom, Dick and Harry, like Genuineoriginal, boldly 'teaching' Christianity.

Genuineoriginal is in bold and total denial and corruption of Jesus' and the other revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.

According to John, in the Holy KJV N.T., Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me":

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


Additionally, John, in the Holy KJV N.T. says:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ


In the above, Jesus says, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. The above also says that truth came with Jesus Christ. This means that Jesus is truth who brought truth to those people, only 2000 odd years ago.

The above says: Moses did not bring truth to those people. Moses gave deception and untruth to those people. Therefore, the ten commandments which Moses gave are not truth. The above says: no one come onto God but through Jesus. That is, no one can come onto God through Moses and no one can come onto God through what Moses gave. It is only truth that can set one free.


For any one seeking truth, the above says: Moses did not bring truth, He simply gave the ten commandments. Truth came with Jesus Christ. Therefore before the advent of Jesus Christ, truth was absent. Therefore what Moses gave and the entire O.T., has no truth.

In case there was any doubt the Holy KJV N.T., provided the following, which confirmed with total clarity that Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews, i.e. he omitted truth, he lied:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

Why would your guys tolerate Genuineoriginal who, is so openly denying Jesus, the Holy KJV N.T. and the above and instead promoting the opposite so as to serve the Sanatic/Antichrist agenda while pretending to be Christian?

Genuineoriginal is not serving the Christian/N.T./Jesus agenda. He is serving the agenda of the Jews who killed Jesus and also persecuted Christians. The Jews did not please God:

1 Thessalonians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

 
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Gurucam

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All Truth come only intutively from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth an from

All Truth come only intutively from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth an from

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ


In the above, Jesus said that He is the truth. John also said, truth came by Jesus Christ.

Although the above says that Moses agave the ten commandments, the above did not say that Jesus brought truth. The above say that Jesus is the truth and truth came by Jesus Christ.

The message is that Jesus is truth. He is the manifestation of truth. And by his presence and not his spoken words, truth was present among those people.

The above does not stand alone. This is supported by the following:

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


Fact is Jesus is the truth. Therefore the Spirit of Truth (Who brings All Truth) is quite literally the Spirit of Jesus. The Spirit of Truth refers to Jesus second body which was present with him together with his physical body when he walked on earth as a man In this way Jesus was literally the truth and truth came with the physical Jesus, because His spirit body was the Spirit of Truth (Who brings All Truth):

1 Corinthians 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.


In the above Jesus tells us that while he was in his physical body he could not deliver truth to those people. Jesus confirmed that he had to go away by being crucified and rising to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body in order for the Spirit of Truth to be made available to guide them (the disciples) into All Truth.

Therefore Jesus Who is the truth and secondly, the truth which came with Jesus Christ, is linked only to the Spirit of Jesus Who is also the Spirit of Truth. And 'the truth' who is Jesus in His Spirit only format, was made available only after Jesus was crucified and rose to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body. This was not connected to the physical Jesus.

Therefore, even though Jesus is the truth and even though truth came by Jesus Christ, no one (not even the disciples) got or had truth when Jesus was on earth in a human physical body.

All of Jesus lectures and demonstration of miracles, were simply to awaken the disciples to and convince them that, All truth come only from His Spirit and this spirit will be made available only after he went away. This is after is crucifixion and rise to spirit heaven clad only n His Spirit body. Every one was dead to their spirit/hearts. Jesus' aim was to awaken them to their own hearts/spirit. Because . . . in order to get All Truth from the Spirit of Truth one had to search one's own heart/spirit. This required one to be awakened to and aware of one's own heart or spirit.

To this end Jesus told His spiritually dead follows that they must have a second birth. This is to be born a 'second time' which is to be born of Spirit. This is not like one's physical birth. This second birth is an awakening to one's already existing spirit body. This is to become awakened to/aware of, one's own heart/spirit body. This is described as being 'born again'. It is nothing more than 'the dead' becoming awakened to/aware of, his/her own heart/spirit.

With the above awakening one can then search his own heart/spirit to discern and commune with, the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth within one's own heart. Then this Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth will pass All Truth. This is the only way that humans can get Truth. There are no truth in any physically spoken or physically written scriptures, manuscripts or any thing else.

Truth is the only basis of Christianity. And all truth come only from a direct intuitive connection between one's own heart/spirit and the Spirit of Jesus. Billions simply physically read and/or physically hear the revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. and the O.T. and they foolishly believe that they know truth and that they are Christians. They are so gravely deceived.

The bottom line is that All Truth comes only form the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth when one search one's own heart/spirit. This is through an intuitive/spirit connection between one's own spirit and the Spirit of Truth. This is the message in:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


Truth is the only basis of Christianity. And all truth come only from a direct intuitive connection between one's own heart/spirit and the Spirit of Jesus. To get one's information by physically reading and physically hearing scriptures and claims to be Christian is a very grave and serious sin. This is denial of the Gospel of Grace.

Acts: 20 King James Version (KJV)
24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.


The above says, 'these things moved me and he did not count his life. He was not concerned with his physical life. He did not worry about preserving his physical life. He was willing to sacrifice his life to finish his passage to spiritual awareness and coming to spiritual/intuitive awareness with the Spirit of Jesus and then be able to testify to truth.

The ten commandments pertains only to regulating and preserving physical life on earth. In the above, He was not preoccupied with the 'thou shalt not murder' commandment. He was not preoccupied with preserving physical life, like Genuineoriginal. He was prepared to give-up his physical life in order to earn spiritual life and intuitive/spirit communion with the Spirit of Jesus. And then he would be able to testify to truth . . . and not before.

This guy did not seek to preserve his physical life and simply physically read and physically hear the scriptures and proceed to preach and make testimonials. To do this is a very grave sin.

The above is like confessing that God raised Jesus from the dead, without having actual live communion with the Spirit of Jesus through one's own heart/spirit . . . and so actually knowing this fact that God actually raised Jesus from the dead, clad only in His Spirit body, and Jesus, clad only in His Spirit body is alive in God's kingdom in spirit heaven, as the Lord for Christians:

Romans: 10 King James Version (KJV)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


How can one make the above mouth confession (properly/correctly) if one is not actually aware that Jesus is clad only in His Spirit body as the Spirit of Truth and therefore alive in spirit heaven, as discern within one's own heart?
 
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genuineoriginal

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Why would your guys tolerate Genuineoriginal who, is so openly denying Jesus, the Holy KJV N.T. and the above and instead promoting the opposite so as to serve the Sanatic/Antichrist agenda while pretending to be Christian?

Genuineoriginal is not serving the Christian/N.T./Jesus agenda. He is serving the agenda of the Jews who killed Jesus and also persecuted Christians. The Jews did not please God:
I am not denying Jesus.
I am opposing your false theology that is trying to teach Christians that the only way they can please God is to do the exact same things that the Jews did that displeased God.

Why do you want Christians to fall under the wrath of God for being disobedient?
 

Gurucam

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Genuineoriginal, do not delude your self with your own convoluted rhetoric

Genuineoriginal, do not delude your self with your own convoluted rhetoric

I am not denying Jesus.
I am opposing your false theology that is trying to teach Christians that the only way they can please God is to do the exact same things that the Jews did that displeased God.

Why do you want Christians to fall under the wrath of God for being disobedient

Genuineoriginal, do not delude your self with your own nonsensical convoluted rhetoric.

You are among billions of foolish people who spill out all kind of foolish incoherent rhetoric in defense of the ideas of their false leaders who are false prophets and unawares false spying brethren. Billions of foolish people are pawns of their leaders, within their churches. These leaders perpetually deceived them and deny them the actualization/development to be able to reasonably and sensibly discern truth in the Holy KJV N.T., on their own.

You are blindly supporting traditional Christianity and Catholicism with incoherent gibberish. A billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics and their tradition, have no basis in the ideas of Jesus and the Holy KJV N.T.. This was totally predicted by Jesus:

Matthew 7:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.


Traditional Christianity and Catholicism are not Christianity. They are make-believe Christianity (i.e. false Christianity). Traditional Christianity and Catholicism are simply fertile soil for foolish people to become (false) Christian leaders and false Christian priests.

Billions are deceived by false prophets, because only a few do not err and are chosen. Clearly it would take millions of false prophets who are trusted within what passed for Christianity everywhere, to achieve this grave disaster.

A false prophet who is recognized to be a false prophet cannot deceived billions (i.e. all but a chosen few). False prophets who deceive many must be the anchor of the billion strong traditional Christians and the billion strong Catholics.

Traditional Christians and Catholics are both a billion or so strong, and they are very happy and foolishly proud to be so (i.e. to be 2 billions or so). The sad fact is that they cannot be the chosen few who have found the straight gate and narrow way. Their 'camp' must have all the false prophets and unawares false spying brethren.

Only a chosen few can and will have the chosen few authentic Christian Prophets as their leaders.

There can be no authentic Christian Prophets within a billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics.


Wake-up to your limitations, which prevents you from discerning and getting truth.

Stop being a false prophet and an unawares false spying brethren who is actively in the practice of returning aspiring Christians and Christians (who have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction to transgress the ten commandments) to bondage, under the ten commandments. This is antichrist and evil.

The Holy KJV N.T. say that ten commandments are anchored on lies. The Holy KJV N.T. also say that the ten commandments are the ministration of death and Jesus did away with (abolished) the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit. This is for Christians, i.e. those who choose to 'follow Jesus'.

The ten commandments are not related to God. They were never the laws from God. The ten commandments were always laws of 'Cesar'. Humans who esteemed, use, invoked and/or promoted the ten commandments, implemented their own judgment and their own punishment under the ten commandments:

Deuteronomy 22
23-24 If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city, and the man, because he has violated his neighbor's wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you.


The ten commandments can be enacted as the laws of one's land and be upheld by the policing and judicial systems of a country. This is what they were in the past days. People were stoned to death, if two or more people said that one transgressed the ten commandments. The ten commandments are not the laws of God. The ten commandments were given by Moses, not God. The Holy KJV N.T. say that Moses lied, when he gave the ten commandments. Moses lied when he said that the ten commandments were from God. The ten commandments are not eternal laws.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away (i.e. abolished):
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


The above confirms, in no uncertain terms that Moses lied, only Jesus brought truth. Moses did not lie arbitrarily. Moses lied when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews. Moses lied about the ten commandments.

The above tells us that the ten commandments were not given by God but were given by Moses.

The above confirm that the ten commandments were not God's eternal laws, as Moses led the Jews to (falsely) believe. The above say that the ten commandments are not eternal. The above say that the ten commandments must eventually be done-away-with (abolished). The above say that the ten commandments were done-away-with (i.e. abolished) by Jesus and replaced with His Spirit. And where the Spirit of Jesus is, there is liberty to transgress the ten commandments.

The above is supported by many other revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.. For example:

The following tells us that the ten commandments were strictly for temporary use, until one becomes spiritually awaken/spiritually aware and can commune with and be led by, the Spirit of Jesus and so earn God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments.

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


The above says that the ten commandments are a schoolmaster that are to be used to bring one onto to Christ. However it (i.e. the ten commandments/the schoolmaster) is done-away-with (abolished) when faith comes. This is clearly and totally supported by:

"we use great plainness of speech, And not as Moses which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished"

The above says very clearly that: Moses lied when he gave the ten commandments to the Jews. Moses did not tell them that the ten commandments were not God's eternal laws. Moses did not tell the Jews that the ten commandments must eventually be abolished.

Moses did not tell the Jews that the ten commandments were to be used as their manager, only up until they come onto spiritual awareness and the Spirit of Jesus. Then they totally drop and transgress the ten commandments so as to be led, unconditionally by the Spirit of Jesus, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit.

Up to now many Jews do not know the above truth. In fact up to this day billions (who are actually make-believe Christians) choose to ignore the above and instead accept and esteem the Jewish's (false and antichrist) idea about the ten commandments.

The above supports John's revelation which says that Moses did not bring truth, only Jesus brought truth. The ten commandments are anchored on lies.

Fact is, only truth will set one free.

You have to be a false prophet and an unawares false spying brethren who is denying Jesus and Christianity because you are still spiritually dead and delight in the ten commandments which are not for Christians.

 
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Gurucam

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Genuineoriginal is preoccupied with saving his physical life.

Genuineoriginal is preoccupied with saving his physical life.

On has this one life on earth, then judgment. Judgment decides whether one goes to hell or heaven. Therefore this one life on earth is not about saving or preserving physical life. This life is about using this physical life as as to gain entry to heaven when one is judged when one dies, physically:

Acts: 20 King James Version (KJV)
24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.


Like Genuineoriginal, a billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics, are all primarily preoccupied with (justifying, esteeming and promoting) the ten commandment and in particular, the 'thou shalt not kill commandment'. They are preoccupied with saving their physical life, any which way.

Esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments (and especially the thou shalt not kill commandment) is the fundamentals of savoring things of man. Physical life is a thing of man. Savoring physical life is to savor a thing of man. This is to be Satan and this is also the primary way to soweth to flesh and reap corruption and entry to hell. This is not to soweth to Spirit and reap eternal life and entry to God's kingdom of heaven.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.


Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


One who savor the things of man inevitably soweth to flesh. They esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments (in particular the thou shalt not kill commandment). The 'thou shalt not kill commandment' is about savoring and protecting physical life. This is like Peter who Jesus identified to be Satan.

Jesus said that those who follow Him will not do the above. Instead during their one life life on earth, they will give-up their physical life to gain eternal life and entry to God's kingdom of heaven.

A billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics are preoccupation with 'the thou shalt not kill' commandments. This is to be preoccupied with one's one and only physical life on earth. For them, their one temporal physical life on earth is more important, than an eternal life in God's kingdom of heaven. This earns them delivery to hell.

They miss the following important message:

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


Judgment is based on:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


A billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics whose paramount ideal/law is the 'thou shalt not kill commandment' are preoccupied with the primary thing of man, which is preserving and protecting physical life. This is to soweth to flesh. They cannot and do not soweth to Spirit.

The above is not so for the chosen few who are the authentic Christians (i.e. the chosen few who actually follow Jesus). They ignore (and even sacrifice) their physical life so as to soweth to Spirit.

Jesus spoke about 'following Him' and leaving 'the dead to buy their dead'.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.


Jesus left the above two choices.

Jesus rose to spirit heaven in three days after his death. To follow Jesus is to differ in no way from Jesus Christ. This means to rise to spirit heaven in three day after death. This means to differ in no way from Jesus Christ.

And indeed, authentic Christians are a chosen few and they differs in no way from Jesus Christ (except that Jesus is Lord of all):

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;


Clearly if after death, one is buried in hell (i.e. purgatory) for an infinite stay, one has not followed Jesus, one is quite literally 'the dead' who get buried in hell by their peers (i.e. one is 'the dead who bury their dead').

The sad fact is that a billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics do not believe in an after life that can be in either heaven or hell.

A billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics do not believe in giving (sacrificing) their current physical life in order to earn eternal life in God's kingdom of heaven.

A billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics choose instead to preserve and protect their physical life by esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments (which are geared only to protect, preserve and regulate physical life):

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.


Seems very clear that Peter/Satan and his popes and their church are the primary instigators of having billions savor the things of man instead of savoring the things of God.
 
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Gurucam

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the idea of going to God's kingdom of heaven, is not known to billions . . . .

the idea of going to God's kingdom of heaven, is not known to billions . . . .

The idea of going to God's kingdom of heaven came to those people (of the O.T. and the N.T.), only 2000 odd years ago, with the advent of Jesus. And even then only the twelve disciples were given by God to know these mysteries of (the information about) God's kingdom of heaven.

Prior to this they had not clue that God's kingdom of heaven existed.

Even up to this day, the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven are hid from a billions strong traditional Christians and a billions strong Catholics.

Prior to 2000 odd years ago people from the O.T. and N.T. catchment (i.e. people who rely on the O.T. and the N.T.), were not ready to consider going to God's kingdom of heaven. This idea (of inheriting God's kingdom of heaven) was beyond them. They did not have the actualization. They did not have 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand, truth. They were not 'born again'. They were not awakened to/aware of their own hearts/spirits, they were 'the dead'. They were only in the flesh. They were children of the flesh, like Ishmael. They were not awakened/aware of, their own heart/spirit and they were not children of God, like Issac.

The above made them, not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. All that God or anyone else could do for those people was to help them regulate and manage their physical/carnal behavior. The ten commandments were given by Moses for this purpose. Moses did not bring truth, he simply gave the ten commandments.

Prior to the advent of Jesus Christ, those people were not even given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven far less to be given these mysteries. This was because they were spiritually dead, also called 'the dead'. That is, they did not have 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand'. Their hearts were 'waxed gross'. They were only 'in the flesh'.

People who are only 'in the flesh' cannot grasp (get) the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven even if these are written and/or explained in the best physical words. This is because these mysteries can only be know from the spirit realm which can be discerned only through the intuitive faculties of our own heart/spirit.

When one is unaware of one's own heart/spirit, one is said to be 'the dead' and one cannot discern the spirit realm through one's own heart/spirit. This is described as not being given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

To be awakened to/aware of one's own spirit is to be 'born again'. One has to be born again to enter God's kingdom of heaven;

John: 3 KJV N.T.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


To be 'born again' is to be born of Spirit. This is not like one's physical birth which was anchored on water. This is to become awakened to/aware of one's own heart/spirit body. This is to cease having a heart/spirit that is 'waxed gross'.

This awakening is necessary because the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven can be discern, known and appreciated only through the intuitive faculties of our own hearts/spirits. These cannot be 'physically known' through our physical senses and our intellectualizing. These must be discerned through our intuitive faculties. These faculties are actualized and functional only in people who have awakened to/aware of their own hearts/spirits.

Fact is, no amount of physical reading and physical hearing can lead one to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. One must be spiritually awakened and spiritually aware and so be able to discern the spirit realm wherein God's kingdom of heaven actually exist, then one can know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven are the knowledge related to inheriting God's kingdom of heaven and knowing about God's kingdom of heaven. This is known only subjective and experimentally through one own heart/spirit.

Only 2000 odd years ago, a few of those people awakened to/became aware of, their own heart/spirit. Then they became capable of getting and knowing the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. At that time, it became time for God to sent someone to earth to guide those chosen few people to the path to getting the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

This marked the end of the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/carnal period which ruled when those people were spiritually dead and the start of the N.T./Christian/spirit and Spirit/Jesus age.

The sad fact is that, up to this day a billions strong traditional Christians and billion strong Catholics have remain people of the per-christian/spiritually dead age.

They are simply not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They are still kept under the bondage of the ten commandments which makes them and keep them 'the dead' (i.e. one who is unaware of their heart/spirit:

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 King James Version (KJV)
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.


Even though the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven came to those people only 2000 odd years ago, with Jesus, only the twelve disciples were capable of knowing these mysteries. That is only the twelve disciples were given by Gods to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Everyone else were still 'the (spiritually) dead' and had no capacity to know or appreciate these mysteries.

Therefore up to 2000 odd years ago those people could not inherit God's kingdom of heaven, they all went to hell. And even then only the twelve disciple could inherit God's kingdom of heaven.

Even now it seem that a billion strong traditional Christians and a billion strong Catholics are still 'the dead'. They are like pre-christian people. They are still not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They cannot and do not inherit God's kingdom of heaven. They are all dispatched to Purgatory/hell.

The idea of and technique for, eternal life and inheriting God's kingdom of heaven came with Jesus. This is a N.T./spirit and Spirit/transgress the ten commandments/Christian/Jesus concept. This is not at all, an O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/Jewish concept.

The above may now be bad news for a billions strong traditional Christians and a billions strong Catholics. However it is totally 'the Good News' that is the Holy KJV N.T.

The above was 'Good News' for the chosen few who actually (and correctly) followed Jesus. These are the chosen few who found the straight gate and narrow way.
 
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genuineoriginal

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The Holy KJV N.T. say that Moses lied, when he gave the ten commandments.
No, the New Testament never says that Moses lied about the ten commandments.

You are telling a lie that God never gave Moses the Ten Commandments to give to the children of Israel.
 
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