musterion
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It is self-centered when you think of God's plans for the entire universe as being solely about your redemption.
Well since He's long since done dealing with those pesky Jews forever, what's He got left to do?
It is self-centered when you think of God's plans for the entire universe as being solely about your redemption.
Well since He's long since done dealing with those pesky Jews forever, what's He got left to do?
:thumb:It is self-centered when you think of God's plans for the entire universe as being solely about your redemption.
"Now, just take a look at what I got on my truck. Maybe some item will tickle your fancy. That is, if you've got a ticklish fancy."-Mr. Haney
It is self-centered when you think of God's plans for the entire universe as being solely about your redemption.
No, it is called being "Christ-centered."
To bring as many people to Christ.
(1 Cor 9:19) Even though I am a free man with no master, I have become a slave to all people to bring many to Christ.
Nowhere in the NT does it say anything about rapturing away those in Christ, then picking back up with the Jews and the law of Moses again.
No one taught such rubbish until Darby in 1830.
No, it is called being "Christ-centered."
No, the end goal of the book, is not man's redemption-that is just a "means to an end," of the goal of bringing glory to God, and God the Father will see to it that His only begotten Son is honored, glorified, on earth, for what He did 2000+ years ago.
Psalm 2:6 KJV Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
No, the end goal of the book, is not man's redemption-that is just a "means to an end," of the goal of bringing glory to God, and God the Father will see to it that His only begotten Son is honored, glorified, on earth, for what He did 2000+ years ago.
Psalm 2:6 KJV Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
His glory is His Heavenly and Everlasting Kingdom. Revelation 21 & 22
Christ's inheritance is His Heavenly and Everlasting Kingdom. Revelation 21 & 22
The Redeemed sons of God share in Christ's inheritance and glory. Revelation 21 & 22
No, He will rule, on earth, from Jerusalem, and you, and others, have been shown, chapter and verse, but you, in disdain, flip the bird, at God the Father, and His Christ, as your father, the devil does, and instructs you to, evil "woman."
Where will you be, while Christ is supposedly ruling on earth?
Do you have a need to know?Nice misdirection, bait'nswitch.....That is slick, real slick, as slick as an eel, slithering down a drain pipe, as I've testified to that question, for years, on TOL, "un elect" one.
Get "elected."
Matthew 25 KJV
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Zech 14 KJV
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ***, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
So you will be resurrected to inherit nothing better or different than the earthly O.T. Mosaic system of rituals, bloody rites, and keeping the ceremonial Laws?
I fail to see what Christ accomplished on the cross, through His death and resurrection, if this is His only achievement. Especially when punishments, plagues, and unbelief are still mentioned to exist in the midst of Jesus' reign.
How does all of this accord with I Corinthians 15:50-57?
And I fail to see the likeness of this kingdom as being that of the Kingdom promised in Revelation 21 & 22.
Actually, it is my belief that the prophecy of Zechariah 14 points to the first coming of Christ Incarnate and only types His rule in His Everlasting Heavenly Kingdom, revealed in Revelation 21 & 22.
Translation: Mt. 25 ff, Zech 14., are "figurative."
=satanic
6 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
False dichotomy.So you will be resurrected to inherit nothing better or different than the earthly O.T. Mosaic system of rituals, bloody rites, and keeping the ceremonial Laws?
False dichotomy.
In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.....not "universe"....
Details.
BOC-will rule in heavenly places.................You've been shown.
for out of Zion shall go forth the law
vs.
Nag: nothing better or different than the earthly O.T. Mosaic system of rituals, bloody rites, and keeping the ceremonial Laws? Here is the bird, God.........
The SOF can't be wrong, saint john.
So you will be ruling in heavenly places, but Jesus will be ruling in Jerusalem?