I consider myself a....

[Curtsibling]

Originally posted by Z Man
All I'm saying is that you, nor I, nor anyone else is better than Hitler.

I say that is complete claptrap. :nono:

So what have we done that is as bad as killing millions of people?

Hilter was a pagan nazi god-hater, so you want to be on that level?

 

[Curtsibling]

Re: Re: Re: Ok!

Re: Re: Re: Ok!

Originally posted by Z Man
No one is saying that Hitler was right; I'm merely trying to say that no one is right.

God can save anyone, no matter what they've done. That would include Hitler.

A 'god' would never come up with such an injust system.

Only we humans would.

This factor is our invention,
an invite-only club...Typically human.

 

[Curtsibling]

Originally posted by Tye Porter
Case #1: If the doctor has not accepted Jesus as his Lord
and Saviour, then yes, he will go to hell. God tells us so.

Case #2: If Hitler did this, he would have been saved.

An exclusive club you have there.

I won't apologise, I see this as complete rubbish.

So all the millions of Jews, Russians, Europeans, Americans and British Hitler killed, are all worthless?

A hideous double standard that only we twisted humans could create.

'God' has little to do with this, methinks.
Only humans saying, "join my club or you will go to hades!"...

Originally posted by Tye Porter
Curt, I have no need to "SELL" this to you,
this is the Word of your/our Creator.
I am merely relaying the message to you.
It's not all about, "You were good, but you did not accept me,
so I am sending you to hell."
It is, "Accept my salvation, and have eternal life."
Even YOU, having lived the life you've been living,
can accept God, and be saved, enter Heaven.

Again, completely off the mark.
God does not have a club, that is invented by greedy people.

This is your way to categorize people, I would deem.

Originally posted by Tye Porter
You have no need to "Accept" what i am selling.
But you do have a need to accept what God has already told you.

I have no need to obey human orders, when it comes to my spiritual life. :kookoo:

 

[Z Man]

Originally posted by Curtsibling
So what have we done that is as bad as killing millions of people?

Hitler sinned just like you and I. Therefore, since we have broken God's law, we are just as guilty as Hitler. There are no degrees of sin; if you commit one, you're guilty. And the punishment is death.

But no one just commits one. Our whole lives revolve around sin. It's our very nature, and mankind has become corrupt. We all need salvation before it becomes to late...

 

[Curtsibling]

Well, I may as well cause a viral pandemic and kill humanity then, since stealing £1 is just as bad...

It is obvious we have irreconcilable differences of opinion on this.

Z Man and Tye,
I see your stance as hideously wrong.
And you see mine in the same light.

I deem that any further debate is pointless.

I already know right from wrong.
I suggest you go back to nursery school and relearn the concept.

And I must say you insult the brave war veterans and war dead of our nations with your prattle.

Let us move on from this debate, fellows.
It's not going to budge.

 

[Z Man]

Originally posted by Curtsibling
Let us move on from this debate, fellows.
It's not going to budge.

And this proves your stubborness.

It's not too late for you to receive salvation...

 

[Curtsibling]

Originally posted by Z Man
And this proves your stubborness.

It's not too late for you to receive salvation...

It proves you are on a different lane from me.

And kindly give the conversion tactics a rest, Z Man.

 

[Curtsibling]

Originally posted by Tye Porter
You mean, you won't budge.
We cannot, as we side with God, and to change our beliefs, would be to deny a truth we've already experienced.

I'm in the same boat, I believe my ideals too.

I am not going to change, so where do we go from there?

Nowhere.

I think you are wrong.
Case closed.

 

[Z Man]

Originally posted by Curtsibling
I think you are wrong.
Case closed.

I know you are wrong.
Case closed.

BTW, it's not to late for you to be saved Curt...

 

[Curtsibling]

Originally posted by Z Man
I know you are wrong.
Case closed.

BTW, it's not to late for you to be saved Curt...

And you too can save yourself, Z Man. :thumb:

 

[Z Man]

Originally posted by Curtsibling
And you too can save yourself, Z Man. :thumb:

Really? That's awesome!! That's great news!!

So great, like, how do I do that? Do you know of a way where I can pay the consequences of my past mistakes, and then make sure that I will not make one more in the future, as long as I live? Do tell me how I can make myself perfect.....

 

[Curtsibling]

It's easy, old boy.

Go and live your life properly, and help all those people that you can.

No one is perfect.
But being a decent human is possible.

 

[Z Man]

Originally posted by Curtsibling
No one is perfect.

And you proved my point. You can't save yourself...

 

[Curtsibling]

Reading with your eyes shut must be hard.

You were not making a point...You are merely keeping a long dead debate alive, Z!

It's obvious we have two different philosophies.

What are you going to do about that?

Let it go, top gun, just let it go.

You can never win.

 

[Z Man]

Originally posted by Curtsibling
You can never win.

I know...... But thank God I can through Jesus!

 

[BillyBob]

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C'mon folks. If everyone gave just ten bucks, Tye would be digging his way out of a very deep hole.

I would love to see Minus 3000 posts!!!!!!!!!

-3000

[isn't it pretty!!!!]

Ten bucks each!!!!!!!

That's less than the cost of a cup of coffee every morning for a month.

The Redneck Club will match every ten dollar donation from here on until the end of the Auction.

If you wanna donate more, all the better!

Let's watch Tye's post count sink into oblivion!!!!!


Remove Tye's Posts Here

 

[Curtsibling]

Originally posted by Z Man
I know...... But thank God I can through Jesus!

You really need a hobby.

 

[Z Man]

Why? What makes you say that? I have tons of hobbies already. I like flying, surfing the net, playing video games, studying theology, and on and on....

 

[Curtsibling]

Keeping long-dead debates alive is another you seem to enjoy, sir.

Let's move on...

New pastures, etc.

 

[Nathon Detroit]

Originally posted by Curtsibling
Keeping long-dead debates alive is another you seem to enjoy, sir.

Let's move on...

New pastures, etc.

Hey if ya cant beat 'em.... change the subject.