How the Gospel Refutes Calvinism, All Religions

[Epoisses]

What good is dying for those that will never believe. You ARE saying Jesus doesn't know who will believe. That's really really a bad idea to tell God he doesn't know what he is doing. Really bad!

If Jesus did not die and atone for all sin he could not be the savior of anyone.

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1John 2:2

There is no doubt what happened at the cross with this verse except for the unbelieving Clavinists!!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

What good is dying for those that will never believe. You ARE saying Jesus doesn't know who will believe. That's really really a bad idea to tell God he doesn't know what he is doing. Really bad!

Your 'thinking processes' are a little off. Have you no logic or reason to fall back on? How about common sense? You don't seem to have any?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Calvinism always say man is responsible.

Calvinism is a "False Doctrine."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You don't believe the Gospel, you teach salvation by works, that is not the Gospel.

Was John Calvin a Parrot?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I feel sorry for posters who have no common sense. In the "Kingdom of no common sense, TB is king!"

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Nanja is Queen and B57 is the Prince.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Anybody disagree with my assessments?

 

[Nanja]

The Gospel, the revelation of the righteousness of God is declared to the born again seed Ps 22:30-31!

Yes exactly, the Gospel is revealed to Faith, a Fruit of the Spirit
given in New Birth, to all of the Chosen "generation" 1 Pet. 2:9; Eph. 1:4.

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[beloved57]

Yes exactly, the Gospel is revealed to Faith, a Fruit of the Spirit
given in New Birth, to all of the Chosen "generation" 1 Pet. 2:9; Eph. 1:4.

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Notice how Peter writes to the born again seed, that the Gospel was preached to them 1 Peter 1:23-25.

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[Sonnet]

What good is dying for those that will never believe. You ARE saying Jesus doesn't know who will believe. That's really really a bad idea to tell God he doesn't know what he is doing. Really bad!

Because it is proof that all men without exception were provided for. God does not show favouritism - he is no respecter of persons. Whether the world's population was 50 billion or just one person, the atonement would have been the same.

Of course God knows who will believe.

 

[Nanja]

Notice how Peter writes to the born again seed, that the Gospel was preached to them 1 Peter 1:23-25.

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It was only to them Peter preached to: The ones Born of Incorruptible Seed, the Generation of the very Logos of God, which were Chosen in Him, who Himself was the Chosen of God 1 Pet. 2:4!

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[beloved57]

It was only to them Peter preached to: The ones Born of Incorruptible Seed, the Generation of the very Logos of God, which were Chosen in Him, who Himself was the Chosen of God 1 Pet. 2:4!

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Yes, 1 Peter 1:23-25 fulfills Ps 22:30-31

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[Grosnick Marowbe]

B57 and Nanja have their own little study going on. There's no one else on this board that agree with either one of them. It must be lonely, not to mention unproductive.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Because it is proof that all men without exception were provided for. God does not show favouritism - he is no respecter of persons. Whether the world's population was 50 billion or just one person, the atonement would have been the same.

Of course God knows who will believe.

Good post.

 

[Nanja]

Yes, 1 Peter 1:23-25 fulfills Ps 22:30-31

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Surely does!

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[TulipBee]

Because it is proof that all men without exception were provided for. God does not show favouritism - he is no respecter of persons. Whether the world's population was 50 billion or just one person, the atonement would have been the same.

Of course God knows who will believe.

Provided for the sheep only cause the unregenerate person is a slave of sin: "For when you were slaves of sin you were free in regard to righteousness" (Rom. 6:20). That means that doing good is not a concern or need of the unbeliever-and naturally so for a person with a sinful nature. The unregenerate is inherently against God: "by abolishing in His flesh the enmity...thus establishing peace" (Eph. 2:15). Enmity is hatred, bitterness, and malice toward an enemy. That was our relationship to God prior to salvation; there was enmity between us.

 

[TulipBee]

If Jesus did not die and atone for all sin he could not be the savior of anyone.

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1John 2:2

There is no doubt what happened at the cross with this verse except for the unbelieving Clavinists!!

Died for the chosen only cause the Bible reveals the true nature of man. It is evil (Mark 7:21-23), sick (Jer. 17:9), a slave of sin (Rom. 6:20), at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15), and, of course, naturally belongs in hell (Eph. 2:3). It then follows that out of his utterly sinful condition, only sinful desires and effects will follow. The question must then be asked, "How can a sinful person ever desire God?"

 

[Epoisses]

Died for the chosen only cause the Bible reveals the true nature of man. It is evil (Mark 7:21-23), sick (Jer. 17:9), a slave of sin (Rom. 6:20), at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15), and, of course, naturally belongs in hell (Eph. 2:3). It then follows that out of his utterly sinful condition, only sinful desires and effects will follow. The question must then be asked, "How can a sinful person ever desire God?"

You're an unbeliever and reject every verse that speaks to a universal atonement.

 

[TulipBee]

You're an unbeliever and reject every verse that speaks to a universal atonement.

We'll leave that up to God. Let's return the Bible

 

[Epoisses]

We'll leave that up to God. Let's return the Bible

You don't believe the bible. Jesus came into the world to save sinners not the elect.