ECT HOW DOES THE SPIRIT EMPOWER US ??

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DAN P

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Hi to all and it is AMAZING how the Holy Spirit empowers people under the Kingdom Gospel and HOW Dispensationalist are empowered today , don't you see !!

At Pentecost , all were told to remain in Jerusalem , for they would be BAPTIZO /INTO , Ho;y Spirit Power , Acts 1:5 !

These are 2 different BAPTIZOS , one John Water Baptism/ Into , and the Power of the Holy Spirit , which Pentecostals of TODAY are BLINDED TO , and this was a Promise to them verse 4 !!

When a person has been saved , the Greek word STRENGTHENED is in the AORIST or Past Tense of salvation and since it is in the Passive Voice it is Christ who STRENGTHEDED us and not by a PROMISE as we are " in Christ " Gal 3:28 !! 1 Cor 12:13 !!

But today it is different as Eph 3:16 points out , " In order that He may you , according to the Riches of His glory , to be STRENGTHENED ( with ) POWER by His Holy Spirit into the INNER MAN ."



Verse 17 , Christ has to SETTLE down in your hearts through FAITH Having Been Rooted and Having Been Grounded in Love .

#1 , IN Pentecost the Holy Spirit caused the Speaking in Languages and Prophesying , in Acts 19:6 , and Paul is not around to make it happen today , is he ?

#2 , Today , in Rom 15:13 and Eph 5:18 we are to BE FILLED BY SPIRIT , as we yield to Holy Spirit Power !!

#3 , There are 2 Gospel mention here , one in the Gogpel of the Kingdom and the other is Grace !!

#4 , This means OSAS !! Eph 2:5 and 8 !!

#5 , It means one BAPTISMA /ONE ONLY BAPTIZED / INTO , the Body of Christ !! Eph 4:5

#6 , There is no Repentance here at ALL !!

dan p
 
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We read the Word. If we believe it we write it in our conscience our book of beliefs. When the Spirit quotes it back to us in our minds, and if we believe Him our faith grows. Our faith is our spiritual strength that we use inside ourselves to resist the devil.

Rom 10:17
17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
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oatmeal

oatmeal

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DAN P said:
Hi to all and it is AMAZING how the Holy Spirit empowers people under the Kingdom Gospel and HOW Dispensationalist are empowered today , don't you see !!

At Pentecost , all were told to remain in Jerusalem , for they would be BAPTIZO /INTO , Ho;y Spirit Power , Acts 1:5 !

These are 2 different BAPTIZOS , one John Water Baptism/ Into , and the Power of the Holy Spirit , which Pentecostals of TODAY are BLINDED TO , and this was a Promise to them verse 4 !!

When a person has been saved , the Greek word STRENGTHENED is in the AORIST or Past Tense of salvation and since it is in the Passive Voice it is Christ who STRENGTHEDED us and not by a PROMISE as we are " in Christ " Gal 3:28 !! 1 Cor 12:13 !!

But today it is different as Eph 3:16 points out , " In order that He may you , according to the Riches of His glory , to be STRENGTHENED ( with ) POWER by His Holy Spirit into the INNER MAN ."



Verse 17 , Christ has to SETTLE down in your hearts through FAITH Having Been Rooted and Having Been Grounded in Love .

#1 , IN Pentecost the Holy Spirit caused the Speaking in Languages and Prophesying , in Acts 19:6 , and Paul is not around to make it happen today , is he ?

#2 , Today , in Rom 15:13 and Eph 5:18 we are to BE FILLED BY SPIRIT , as we yield to Holy Spirit Power !!

#3 , There are 2 Gospel mention here , one in the Gogpel of the Kingdom and the other is Grace !!

#4 , This means OSAS !! Eph 2:5 and 8 !!

#5 , It means one BAPTISMA /ONE ONLY BAPTIZED / INTO , the Body of Christ !! Eph 4:5

#6 , There is no Repentance here at ALL !!

dan p
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We are empowered by the gift of holy spirit.

However, having power and knowing how to use it are two different matters.
 
Aimiel

Aimiel

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God uses this life to prove His Love and entrusts His Power to those who love Him the most. It is walking in love that brings us closer to Him. Walking in forgiveness, walking in faith and seeking His Glory. This is how we find the path that leads to His Presence.
 
oatmeal

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Aimiel said:
God uses this life to prove His Love and entrusts His Power to those who love Him the most. It is walking in love that brings us closer to Him. Walking in forgiveness, walking in faith and seeking His Glory. This is how we find the path that leads to His Presence.
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God is everywhere present, He inhabits eternity

Isaiah 57:15

For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

We are always in his presence, we must learn to recognize his presence.

We do that by learning to lovingly obeying His word
 
oatmeal

oatmeal

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oatmeal said:
We are empowered by the gift of holy spirit.

However, having power and knowing how to use it are two different matters.
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There are nine ways to manifest that holy spirit power.

But most seem content to remain ignorant of that power and how to use it.

I Corinthians 12:1 KJV

Now concerning spiritual, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

God has given to every believer the ability, that gift of holy spirit, which is manifested in nine profitable ways

I Corinthians 12:7-11

But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

God energizes those manifestations according to the willingness of the man to will to manifest
 
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DAN P said:
Hi to all and it is AMAZING how the Holy Spirit empowers people under the Kingdom Gospel and HOW Dispensationalist are empowered today , don't you see !!

At Pentecost , all were told to remain in Jerusalem , for they would be BAPTIZO /INTO , Ho;y Spirit Power , Acts 1:5 !

These are 2 different BAPTIZOS , one John Water Baptism/ Into , and the Power of the Holy Spirit , which Pentecostals of TODAY are BLINDED TO , and this was a Promise to them verse 4 !!

When a person has been saved , the Greek word STRENGTHENED is in the AORIST or Past Tense of salvation and since it is in the Passive Voice it is Christ who STRENGTHEDED us and not by a PROMISE as we are " in Christ " Gal 3:28 !! 1 Cor 12:13 !!

But today it is different as Eph 3:16 points out , " In order that He may you , according to the Riches of His glory , to be STRENGTHENED ( with ) POWER by His Holy Spirit into the INNER MAN ."



Verse 17 , Christ has to SETTLE down in your hearts through FAITH Having Been Rooted and Having Been Grounded in Love .

#1 , IN Pentecost the Holy Spirit caused the Speaking in Languages and Prophesying , in Acts 19:6 , and Paul is not around to make it happen today , is he ?

#2 , Today , in Rom 15:13 and Eph 5:18 we are to BE FILLED BY SPIRIT , as we yield to Holy Spirit Power !!

#3 , There are 2 Gospel mention here , one in the Gogpel of the Kingdom and the other is Grace !!

#4 , This means OSAS !! Eph 2:5 and 8 !!

#5 , It means one BAPTISMA /ONE ONLY BAPTIZED / INTO , the Body of Christ !! Eph 4:5

#6 , There is no Repentance here at ALL !!

dan p
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You are correct. Today, the Holy Spirit baptizes the believer (not
by water) into the "Body of Christ!" There is NO water baptism
for today. Once we, hear the "Grace Message" and place our faith
in Christ, we are sealed and indwelt by "The Holy Spirit" and baptized
into the "Body of Christ!" That's by "Paul's Gospel" alone!! Why?
Because, we are living in, "The Dispensation of Grace!"
 
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Grosnick Marowbe said:
You are correct. Today, the Holy Spirit baptizes the believer (not
by water) into the "Body of Christ!" There is NO water baptism
for today. Once we, hear the "Grace Message" and place our faith
in Christ, we are sealed and indwelt by "The Holy Spirit" and baptized
into the "Body of Christ!" That's by "Paul's Gospel" alone!! Why?
Because, we are living in, "The Dispensation of Grace!"
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So was Cain.
 
Word based mystic

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ephesians 3:16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may be able to comprehend with all the [m]saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.

reveals a lot. first we must be strengthened in our spirit also known as our inner man. Rooted and grounded in love and shows we are trustworthy to (Comprehend) the fullness of Christs love
The actual word Comprehend is not a mental memorization of philosophy or concepts, but actually means to (experience) experiencing Gods love is an active exercise our spirit partners with the Holy Spirit.

we learn mental concepts in college When we graduate We (do) actions.

comprehending something in the act of doing is the goal of growth in a christian.

When Christ strengthens us in love we become entrusted to exercise and partner with The Spirit of God. Right and Spirit led prayer releases that river in our innermost man.
The experience and comprehension of Gods love in us (surpasses) knowledge.
vs 9 uses the word (know) which is an intimate, relational, experiential context not just a mental one.

All of the above growing in love and comprehension of love as well as our inner man being strenthened/stretched is focused on the main goal. Which is the end of vs 19 (that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.)
 
Aimiel

Aimiel

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oatmeal said:
God is everywhere present, He inhabits eternity

Isaiah 57:15

For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

We are always in his presence, we must learn to recognize his presence.

We do that by learning to lovingly obeying His word
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God's Omnipresence and God's Manifest Presence are two different things. He is present in hell. He is manifest when He speaks, heals or otherwise displays His Power.
 
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Aimiel said:
God's Omnipresence and God's Manifest Presence are two different things. He is present in hell. He is manifest when He speaks, heals or otherwise displays His Power.
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If He is present in hell would mean love is present in hell, so I don't believe you mean that.
 
Word based mystic

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He Loves us We are stretched/empowered as we experience his love. We become trustworthy as we partner with him as co-laborers. praying and asking what he leads us to.
Character development prepares us for his manifest presence today and joint heirs both now and in the heavenly realm to come.
Love is the process that empowers us to be filled with all the fullness of God

true empowerment.

Amiel and cross reference. would it be correct in assuming psalm 139:8 references to His omnipresence throughout all creation. God may not manifest his active presence of love and such. But still He is both infinite and beyond all his creation.
any energy or place of existence is birthed out of all that He created. Yet it might be twisted or demeaned it is still his energy that holds all things together.
Thoughts?
 
Word based mystic

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Salvation through knowledge or works is both useless.
Yet so many perceive their understanding of scripture equates salvation.
Understanding of scripture definitely gives us a foundation for truth and error.
It does not however usurp Christ being the door, the way the truth and the life.

I can't tell you how many sincere evangelists have told me that if I don't understand properly I can't be saved.

The simpleton, autistic, downs, and low in IQ have now been eliminated from salvation with those thought processes.

Gnosticism and legalism stink.
Christ does the work, He completes what he starts, His love draws us.
 
Levolor

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Word based mystic said:
Salvation through knowledge or works is both useless.
Yet so many perceive their understanding of scripture equates salvation.
Understanding of scripture definitely gives us a foundation for truth and error.
It does not however usurp Christ being the door, the way the truth and the life.

I can't tell you how many sincere evangelists have told me that if I don't understand properly I can't be saved.

The simpleton, autistic, downs, and low in IQ have now been eliminated from salvation with those thought processes.

Gnosticism and legalism stink.
Christ does the work, He completes what he starts, His love draws us.
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Amen. Praise God!
 
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DAN P

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andyc said:
Welcome to gnosticism.
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Hi and if you believe in Repentance , EXPLAIN 1 Cor 2:14 ??

Now Israel knew about Repentance and Water Baptism as preached by John in Matt 3:8 and they had to PROVE they had FRUIT to prove their Repentance , see Acts 19:4 !!

Acts 26:20 proves that works are required for Repentance !!:hammer::hammer:

dan p
 
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