You do not need to help me track this conversation as if I am confused. You are the one who is confused - clearly.
Saying it doesn't make it so.
I never implied only you. I never mentioned you at all.
I said "as if." Which shows you're not paying attention.
People against homosexuality often provide no basis for it what-so-ever beyond matters of taste and the dictates of their particular religion.
I provided a link that shows that homosexuality was considered by the medical community to be a mental illness at some point.
Meaning there are medical reasons for it to be a mental illness.
Medical reasons are not "matters of taste" nor "dictates of [a] particular religion."
It's the homosexual community (and their supporters) who have provided no basis for it NOT to be considered a mental illness, aside from that they're offended by it being one (which is no basis at all for removing it from the list of mental illnesses).
You fail to address my point which is that your attempt to validate that homosexuality as a mental illness is outdated
Outdated only in the sense that it has become common to accept homosexuals as normal, when in fact they are not.
- and waaaay outdated. Do you often reach back half a century when contemplating other matters like your own medical care for instance? Why not?
Don't change the subject.
Clinical and personal data of a subset of psychiatrists was used initially to persuade the APA to remove the diagnosis. They were persuaded by a compelling argument and their own observation of their own patients and colleagues.
And you can link to the data?
Because there's plenty of data that shows them to be mentally ill, but few to none that show the behavior to be normal.
Homosexual individuals did not have anymore likelihood of corroborating signs of mental illness.
They don't?
So, homosexual mass murderers aren't mentally ill?
kgov.com
How about the homosexual child molesters?
www.familyresearchinst.org
How about the homosexuals who seek out other homos to share sexually transmitted diseases?
kgov.com
How about the homosexuals appointed to government positions who actively promote pedophilia?
by LifeSiteNews.com
www.lifesitenews.com
How about the depression that's prevalent in children who have same-sex parents?
The relationship of elevated depression risk recently discovered among adult persons raised by same-sex parents with possible precipitating conditions in childhood has not previously been acknowledged. This study tests whether such inattention is supportable. Logistic regression based risk...
www.hindawi.com
Functioning in the work setting became a big thing in rendering a diagnosis. If the symptoms were not severe enough to impact ability to succeed in the workforce, (or in other major a areas), the diagnostic criteria for the illness is often not met. Such functioning is a specific criteria in many diagnoses and is used to rate severity in all disorders. Homosexuals to the contrary had average of higher capacity in the workforce.
So what?
Many times there is greater level of achievement. No one has ever suggested gay people are unable to earn ample wage.
Anyone can hide their symptoms, especially if people aren't looking.
It doesn't change the fact that they are mentally ill.
The homo crowd took offense to the notion that they were pathological because of their sexuality for centuries with varying degrees of certainty and varying degrees of internalized homophobia.
And what they should have done, rather than try to legitimize their wrong behavior, was to stop being a bunch of fags and dykes.
The fact that you had to reach so far back is solid proof that you are out of touch with the current data.
No, it's solid proof that we're a nation that is 50 years beyond the normalization of a mental illness.
You are grabbing at straws. Your ship has sailed long ago. Subsequent studies show that gay people fall in the typical range in regard to mental health symptoms. Often where there are signs of an upswing in symptoms in a subset of the gay population, it is clearly traceable to stigma rather than directly because of sexuality.
So the above homosexual criminals are a result of those who maintain the stigma?
You sure about that?
So, is drilling holes in people's heads a good practice to treat schizophrenia? That was once standard medical practice. So, it is, in fact, good practice, right?
Don't change the subject.
Your claim is just as absurd.
Saying it doesn't make it so.
The fact is most human beings on earth right now are not Xtian.
Appeal to popularity won't get you anywhere with me.
Many people- not just you- believe their religion is the ultimate truth.
Most are wrong.
Christianity is true because Christ did, in fact, rise from the dead. If He did not rise from the dead, then you might have an argument against Christianity, but since He did, you don no
Should one religion get to push their view on others by the force of law just because they are really really convinced?
I gave you a way to falsify my belief. How much someone is convinced of how true Christianity has nothing to do with it.
What matters is if it's actually true based on the evidence.
Christ did rise from the dead. Therefore Christianity is true.
OR
Christ did not rise from the dead. Therefore Christianity is false.
I can show you the former through the evidence. Until you show me the latter, through evidence, then you have no argument against what I believe, only waffling and handwaving.
