You get it by believing the scriptures. Partial days are considered full days by Jews. Thus Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
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You get it by believing the scriptures. Partial days are considered full days by Jews. Thus Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
achduke
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My mistake. I calculated it up side down when I was redoing my research. I needed to start with night and then day.
Correction:
Nissan 14th Wed Day Just before Evening (3PM) Christ Crucified and put in Tomb at twilight, Preparation Day.
Nissan 15th Wed (Christ in the Ground 1st Night) Passover Night
Nissan 15th Thu (Christ in the Ground 1st Day) 1st Day of Unleaven Bread. (Special Sabbath John 19:31)
Nissan 16th Thu (Christ in the Ground 2nd Night) 2nd Day of Unleaven Bread
Nissan 16th Fri (Christ in the Ground 2nd Day) 2nd Day of Unleaven Bread. (Mark 16:1) After Sabbath Mary and Mary buy spices.
Nissan 17th Fri (Christ in the Ground 3rd Night) 3rd Day of Unleaven Bread and Weekly Sabbath.
Nissan 17th Sat (Christ in the Ground 3rd Day) 3rd Day of Unleaven Bread and Weekly Sabbath (Christ Risen ?)
Nissan 18th Sat Night 4th Day of Unleaven Bread and First Fruits (Christ had already risen.) (John 20:1)
Nissan 18th Sun Day 4th Day of Unleaven Bread and First Fruits (waving of sheaf)
achduke
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That still does not make 3 days and 3 nights.
We also need to account for Mary and Mary resting on the High Sabbath and then buying spices and then resting on the weekly Sabbath after that.
According to the Jews it does. Partial days are considered days.
Only in special cases.
In the Bible, the season of light (Gen. i. 5), lasting "from dawn [lit. "the rising of the morning"] to the coming forth of the stars" (Neh. iv. 15, 17). The term "day" is used also to denote a period of twenty-four hours (Ex. xxi. 21).
In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day.
Again, a man who hears of a vow made by his wife or his daughter, and desires to cancel the vow, must do so on the same day on which he hears of it, as otherwise the protest has no effect; even if the hearing takes place a little time before night, the annulment must be done within that little time.
The day is reckoned from evening to evening—i.e., night and day—except in reference to sacrifices, where daytime and the night following constitute one day (Lev. vii. 15; see Calendar). "The day" denotes: (a) Day of the Lord; (b) the Day of Atonement; (c) the treatise of the Mishnah that contains the laws concerning the Day of Atonement (See Yoma and Sabbath).
(The Jewish Encyclopedia/ Day)
In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day.
Again, a man who hears of a vow made by his wife or his daughter, and desires to cancel the vow, must do so on the same day on which he hears of it, as otherwise the protest has no effect; even if the hearing takes place a little time before night, the annulment must be done within that little time.
The day is reckoned from evening to evening—i.e., night and day—except in reference to sacrifices, where daytime and the night following constitute one day (Lev. vii. 15; see Calendar). "The day" denotes: (a) Day of the Lord; (b) the Day of Atonement; (c) the treatise of the Mishnah that contains the laws concerning the Day of Atonement (See Yoma and Sabbath).
(The Jewish Encyclopedia/ Day)
achduke
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By your account if I am correct?
Friday day 1 day
Friday night 1 night. Weekly Sabbath
Saturday day 2. Weekly Sabbath
Saturday night 2 night
Sunday day 3rd day Christ risen?
Where are the 3 days and 3 nights?
WeberHome
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The preponderance of evidence attests that Christ revived during the third
day rather than after the third day was all over and done with.
Matt 17:22-23
Mark 9:31
Luke 9:22
Luke 24:12-24
Luke 24:41-46
Acts 10:39-41
1Cor 15:4
In other words: people looking to find 72 hours; are like a blind man in a
dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there.
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The preponderance of evidence attests that Christ revived during the third
day rather than after the third day was all over and done with.
Matt 17:22-23
Mark 9:31
Luke 9:22
Luke 24:12-24
Luke 24:41-46
Acts 10:39-41
1Cor 15:4
In other words: people looking to find 72 hours; are like a blind man in a
dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there.
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WeberHome
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†. Luke 23:50-56 . . And behold, a man named Joseph, who was a member
of the Council, a good and righteous man (he had not consented to their
plan and action), a man from Arimathea, a city of the Jews, who was waiting
for the kingdom of God; this man went to Pilate and asked for the body of
Jesus. And he took it down and wrapped it in a linen cloth, and laid him in a
tomb cut into the rock, where no one had ever lain. And it was the
preparation day, and the sabbath was about to begin.
. . . Now the women who had come with him out of Galilee followed after,
and saw the tomb and how his body was laid. And they returned and
prepared spices and perfumes. And on the sabbath they rested according to
the commandment.
By no stretch of the imagination can three nights can be produced between
Friday afternoon and Sunday morning. Obviously then; the sabbath in that
passage is not the routine sabbath, rather; it's a special sabbath uniquely
related to Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
FYI: The unique sabbath is located at Ex 12:16, and it's not optional; no, it's
a commandment just as Luke says.
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†. Luke 23:50-56 . . And behold, a man named Joseph, who was a member
of the Council, a good and righteous man (he had not consented to their
plan and action), a man from Arimathea, a city of the Jews, who was waiting
for the kingdom of God; this man went to Pilate and asked for the body of
Jesus. And he took it down and wrapped it in a linen cloth, and laid him in a
tomb cut into the rock, where no one had ever lain. And it was the
preparation day, and the sabbath was about to begin.
. . . Now the women who had come with him out of Galilee followed after,
and saw the tomb and how his body was laid. And they returned and
prepared spices and perfumes. And on the sabbath they rested according to
the commandment.
By no stretch of the imagination can three nights can be produced between
Friday afternoon and Sunday morning. Obviously then; the sabbath in that
passage is not the routine sabbath, rather; it's a special sabbath uniquely
related to Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
FYI: The unique sabbath is located at Ex 12:16, and it's not optional; no, it's
a commandment just as Luke says.
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Joseph from Arimathea was JESUS physical Father .
1. RICH FROM SEVERAL WISE MEN BRINGING A GREAT DEAL OF GOLD TO HIS SON'S BIRTH.
2. GRAVE CLOSE BY - JESUS PROBABLY TOLD HIM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN NEAR FUTURE.
3. GOING OUT OF HIS WAY TO BUY SPICES.
4. JESUS MOTHER AND BROTHERS DID NOT OBJECT TO JOSEPHS ACTIONS.
5. WHY WOULD JOSEPH ASK FOR THE BODY OF JESUS FROM PONTIUS PILATE ????
1. RICH FROM SEVERAL WISE MEN BRINGING A GREAT DEAL OF GOLD TO HIS SON'S BIRTH.
2. GRAVE CLOSE BY - JESUS PROBABLY TOLD HIM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN NEAR FUTURE.
3. GOING OUT OF HIS WAY TO BUY SPICES.
4. JESUS MOTHER AND BROTHERS DID NOT OBJECT TO JOSEPHS ACTIONS.
5. WHY WOULD JOSEPH ASK FOR THE BODY OF JESUS FROM PONTIUS PILATE ????
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Nope, Joseph the carpenter was his Father not Joseph the Pharisee.
:doh: Dull guy. His earthly father was not a member of the religious ruling council. That is just plain ignorant. Hint : It is discourteous to post all caps.
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Not true, in the KJV Luke tells us that day was the preparation and the Sabbath drew on. The term "drew on" means to begin.
Matthew tells us it began to dawn toward the first day of the week... The word "dawn" is epiphosko and marked the beginning of a twelve hour day.
Luke tells us the Sabbath drew on. The term "drew on" is from epiphosko and marked the beginning of a twenty-four hour day.
Jesus was entombed as the Thursday Sabbath began and 72 hours later he was raised as Sunday began.
WeberHome
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†. John 18:28 . . They led Jesus therefore from Caiaphas into the
Praetorium, and it was early; and they themselves did not enter in order
that they might not be defiled, but might eat the Passover.
†. John 19:14 . . Now it was the day of preparation for the Passover; it was
about the sixth hour.
According to those two passages, Christ was arrested prior to the night of
the official Passover seder; which means that Christ ate his own Passover
the night before the Jews ate theirs; viz: either he was early or they were
late.
Well; I trust that Christ, being a prophet in intimate contact with God, was
privy to the correct date; which is very important because there are God
given rules governing the feast.
†. Num 9:12 . .They shall offer it in strict accord with the law of the
Passover sacrifice.
Failure to comply with the rules incurs an immediate curse upon offenders.
†. Deut 27:26 . . Cursed be he who will not uphold the terms of this law and
observe them.
The Jews' mistake worked to Christ's advantage because apparently it was
his Father's wishes that the lamb of God be put to death on the correct date
without the Jews knowing it because had they known, they would not have
crucified him on time.
†. Matt 26:3-5 . .Then the chief priests and the elders of the people
assembled in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and
they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill him. But not during the
Feast-- they said --or there may be a riot among the people.
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†. John 18:28 . . They led Jesus therefore from Caiaphas into the
Praetorium, and it was early; and they themselves did not enter in order
that they might not be defiled, but might eat the Passover.
†. John 19:14 . . Now it was the day of preparation for the Passover; it was
about the sixth hour.
According to those two passages, Christ was arrested prior to the night of
the official Passover seder; which means that Christ ate his own Passover
the night before the Jews ate theirs; viz: either he was early or they were
late.
Well; I trust that Christ, being a prophet in intimate contact with God, was
privy to the correct date; which is very important because there are God
given rules governing the feast.
†. Num 9:12 . .They shall offer it in strict accord with the law of the
Passover sacrifice.
Failure to comply with the rules incurs an immediate curse upon offenders.
†. Deut 27:26 . . Cursed be he who will not uphold the terms of this law and
observe them.
The Jews' mistake worked to Christ's advantage because apparently it was
his Father's wishes that the lamb of God be put to death on the correct date
without the Jews knowing it because had they known, they would not have
crucified him on time.
†. Matt 26:3-5 . .Then the chief priests and the elders of the people
assembled in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and
they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill him. But not during the
Feast-- they said --or there may be a riot among the people.
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achduke
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Was the last supper the passover seder or just a dinner before the passover seder?
In John 13:1-2 The supper ended before passover.
In John 13:28-29 The disciples assumed that Judas was going out to buy things for the feast. If this was a passover seder would they not already have everything ready for the feast?
The law specified a lamb or goat as the firstborns' sacrifice. A person as the sacrifice never occurred to the Jews, it would have been against the law. Jesus said they did not know what they were doing and asked the Father to forgive them.
An evening consists of the time period from when the sun begins its downward trek across the sky until sundown. On an eighteen hour sundial where each hour is eighty minutes as opposed to sixty, such as the sundial of Ahaz, the time of "the going down of the sun" would begin at about 1:20PM in the modern terms of a twenty-four hour clock, (and therefore the scripture says "between the evenings").
And as already stated:
And there is evening, and there is morning: Yom Echad. - Genesis 1:5
The the moonstruck lunatic seleniazomenous cannot understand. :crackup:
Elohim made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and lesser light to rule the night, (Genesis 1:16). The greater light rules over the sons of the light and the lesser light rules over the sons of darkness. The sons of light walk by the light of the day and are sons of the day, (John 11:9-10 ASV, John 12:36 ASV, Ephesians 5:8 ASV, 1 Thessalonians 5:5 ASV) and this no doubt includes the calendar by which the sons of light walk. The sons of darkness walk by the lesser light and thus their calendar and days are likewise ruled by the moon, (GSN#4583 seleniazomai, moonstruck).
And as already stated:
And there is evening, and there is morning: Yom Echad. - Genesis 1:5
The the moonstruck lunatic seleniazomenous cannot understand. :crackup:
Elohim made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and lesser light to rule the night, (Genesis 1:16). The greater light rules over the sons of the light and the lesser light rules over the sons of darkness. The sons of light walk by the light of the day and are sons of the day, (John 11:9-10 ASV, John 12:36 ASV, Ephesians 5:8 ASV, 1 Thessalonians 5:5 ASV) and this no doubt includes the calendar by which the sons of light walk. The sons of darkness walk by the lesser light and thus their calendar and days are likewise ruled by the moon, (GSN#4583 seleniazomai, moonstruck).
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