God's Great Free Gift of Salvation for Everyone

[Robert Pate]

One has to be saved to call upon the name of the Lord. A lost person has the Gospel hid from them 2 Cor 4:3-4

[FONT="]But if [B]our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:[/B][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.[/FONT]

The glorious Gospel of Christ is hid from you. You think that the Gospel is Calvinism.

You don't understand how God has justified the ungodly, Romans 4:5, nor do you understand and believe that God has reconciled the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

 

[beloved57]

The glorious Gospel of Christ is hid from you. You think that the Gospel is Calvinism.

You don't understand how God has justified the ungodly, Romans 4:5, nor do you understand and believe that God has reconciled the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

You don't even believe that Christ death alone saved them He died for. There's no Gospel without the Saving death of Christ!

 

[Robert Pate]

You don't even believe that Christ death alone saved them He died for. There's no Gospel without the Saving death of Christ!

The Bible plainly teaches that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world.

"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son TO BE THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD" 1 John 4:14.

You Calvinist god does not want you to believe that. He wants you to go to hell.

 

[beloved57]

The Bible plainly teaches that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world.

"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son TO BE THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD" 1 John 4:14.

You Calvinist god does not want you to believe that. He wants you to go to hell.

You don't even believe that Christ death alone saved them He died for. So you don't believe the Good News of the Gospel!

 

[Robert Pate]

You don't even believe that Christ death alone saved them He died for. So you don't believe the Good News of the Gospel!

There is not one person in the whole world that Jesus did not provide salvation for, 1 John 2:2.

God is rich in mercy and desires that all would be saved, 2 Peter 3:9.

But unfortunately there are many like yourself that want to be saved some other way than by God's mercy and grace that has been revealed to us in Jesus Christ.

 

[beloved57]

There is not one person in the whole world that Jesus did not provide salvation for, 1 John 2:2.

God is rich in mercy and desires that all would be saved, 2 Peter 3:9.

But unfortunately there are many like yourself that want to be saved some other way than by God's mercy and grace that has been revealed to us in Jesus Christ.

Explain how you believe the Gospel of Christ, when you teach that sinners He died for are lost in their sins anyways?

 

[Robert Pate]

Explain how you believe the Gospel of Christ, when you teach that sinners He died for are lost in their sins anyways?

No one can be saved if Jesus did not atone for the sins of all of humanity.

Jesus as God's new Adam and our representative has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil.

Proof of this is that God accepted Jesus back into heaven and has seated him at his own right hand, a place of honor and respect. God now sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:20.

Salvation has been provided for all because all of humanity was constituted in Jesus Christ. This is why Paul could say... "You are complete in him" Colossians 2:10.

 

[beloved57]

No one can be saved if Jesus did not atone for the sins of all of humanity.

Jesus as God's new Adam and our representative has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil.

Proof of this is that God accepted Jesus back into heaven and has seated him at his own right hand, a place of honor and respect. God now sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:20.

Salvation has been provided for all because all of humanity was constituted in Jesus Christ. This is why Paul could say... "You are complete in him" Colossians 2:10.

So you outright deny that The Cross saves ! If you teach that even though Christ died for an individual, they can and do still wind up lost in their sins, you deny the Cross !

 

[Robert Pate]

So you outright deny that The Cross saves ! If you teach that even though Christ died for an individual, they can and do still wind up lost in their sins, you deny the Cross !

Jesus has made salvation available to everyone, Hebrews 2:9.

So that... "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord will be saved" Romans 10:13.

 

[beloved57]

Jesus has made salvation available to everyone, Hebrews 2:9.

So that... "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord will be saved" Romans 10:13.

So you continue to deny that Jesus Christ death alone saved them He died for. Thats denying He is their Saviour !

 

[beloved57]

pates lie

Jesus has made salvation available to everyone, Hebrews 2:9.

Heb 2:9 doesnt say that, so pate is ltying

So that... "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord will be saved" Romans 10:13.

A lost person cant call upon the name of the Lord, they are lost, dead spiritually, in the flesh and cant please God Rom 8:8; cant believe the Gospel because its hidden from the lost 2 Cor 4:3

 

[clefty]

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life" John 3:16.

The salvation that God provides for us in Jesus Christ is 100% free. It is not imposed (Calvinism) nor can it be earned (Catholicism) nor can it be deserved. It is God's great FREE GIFT for all of humanity. This salvation is ours by simple child like faith in God's Son, Jesus Christ, plus nothing. It is not the Gospel plus our religion. It is the Gospel plus nothing.

"But not as the offence, so also is THE FREE GIFT. For if through the offence of one (Adam) many be dead, much more THE GRACE OF GOD and THE GIFT by grace, which is by one man Jesus Christ, has abounded unto many" Romans 5:15.

"And not as it was by one that sinned (Adam) so is THE GIFT: for the judgment was by one (Adam) to condemnation, but THE FREE GIFT is of many offenses unto justification of life" Romans 5:16.

"For if by one man's offense (Adam) death reigned by one (Adam) much more they which receive ABUNDANCE OF GRACE and of THE GIFT of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ" Romans 5:17.

"Therefore as by the offense of one man's disobedience (Adam) many were made sinners, so by the righteousness of one (Jesus Christ) THE FREE GIFT came upon ALL MEN unto justification of life" Romans 5:18.

It was the work of Christ that was done in our name and on our behalf that reconciled us to God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. No, we were not reconciled to God by being predestinated, nor were we reconciled to God by our good works. We were reconciled to God because of God's great love for fallen humanity.

"For by grace are you saved through faith; and not that of yourselves: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD" Ephesians 2:8.

All that we are called to do is to accept God's great FREE GIFT of salvation that has been provided for us by Jesus Christ. For some this is so simple that it is offensive. People like to earn what they get. But this is one thing that cannot be earned, deserved or imposed. All that we can do is say, "Thank you Lord."

There is more we can do...gratitude is expressed in fidelity and obedience...doing what He did as He did...if you love Him...what we do testifies of what He did...

 

[Robert Pate]

There is more we can do...gratitude is expressed in fidelity and obedience...doing what He did as He did...if you love Him...what we do testifies of what He did...

Right. The Gospel calls for holy living.

We are to be witnesses for Christ and his Gospel. A good witness has a life to back up what he is preaching. Otherwise, who will believe him?

 

[beloved57]

Right. The Gospel calls for holy living.

We are to be witnesses for Christ and his Gospel. A good witness has a life to back up what he is preaching. Otherwise, who will believe him?

Going around teaching that Christ death alone didn't save them He died for isn't holy living. That is blasphemous living!

 

[Robert Pate]

Going around teaching that Christ death alone didn't save them He died for isn't holy living. That is blasphemous living!

I teach what the Bible says. The Bible plainly teaches that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2, 1 John 4:14.

You teach what some heretic wrote back in the 1500's.

 

[beloved57]

I teach what the Bible says. The Bible plainly teaches that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2, 1 John 4:14.

You teach what some heretic wrote back in the 1500's.

It's unoly living to deny the Saving power of the Cross/Blood of Christ. Nothing but the devil would do such a thing.

 

[Robert Pate]

It's unoly living to deny the Saving power of the Cross/Blood of Christ. Nothing but the devil would do such a thing.

Who is denying the saving power of the cross/blood of Christ.

It appears to me that you are trying to be saved by being predestinated, no need for Christ or his Gospel.

 

[beloved57]

Who is denying the saving power of the cross/blood of Christ.

It appears to me that you are trying to be saved by being predestinated, no need for Christ or his Gospel.

You deny the Saving power of the Cross. You teach that sinners Christ died for upon the Cross still wind up lost in their sins anyways!

 

[Robert Pate]

You deny the Saving power of the Cross. You teach that sinners Christ died for upon the Cross still wind up lost in their sins anyways!

Yep! You and all of the other Gospel rejectors are hell bound.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

You deny the Saving power of the Cross. You teach that sinners Christ died for upon the Cross still wind up lost in their sins anyways!

i know that the following will be way over your head but I will post it so others can understand exactly who Christ died for. Let us look at these two verses:

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;Who gave himself a ransom for (hyper) all, to be testified in due time" (1 Tim.2:6).​

"Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for (anti) many" (Mt.20:28).​

In the first verse it says that He gave His life as a ransom for "all." Then in the second verse it says that He gave His life as a ransom for "many," but not all.

How can this be explained? The key to understanding the difference is understanding the meaning of the Greek words translated "for" in both verses.

In the first verse the Greek word translated "for" is hyper, and one of the meanings of that word is "on behalf of" (Thayer's Greek English Lexicon). The Lord Jesus died on "behalf" of ALL MEN.

In the second verse the Greek word anti is translated as "for," and that word means "in place of" (Thayer's Greek English Lexicon). So the Lord gave His life a ransom in place of MANY, but not all.

So we can see that the Lord Jesus gave His life as a ransom on behalf of all men but the Lord only gave His life as a ransom "in place of" MANY people but not all.

The Lord Jesus only gave His life as a ransom "in place of" those who believe the gospel of our salvation. But He died on behalf of all men.