ECT glorydaz says that Romans is Written to Unbelievers

StanJ

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Thank you for ceding my point - The verb is "to disciple" and not "to MAKE disciples"...
You ignored what the teaching entails -
Strict and exact and precise obedience to all that Christ commanded them to be DOING...

Guess you don't get it? Moving on.


The Navy Seal kills his enemy...
So does the Christian...
One kills an enemy soldier, fairly straightforward...
The other kills the Old Man of Sin, which requires discipleship...
The effort of the first is mild compared to that of the latter...
The latter is killed IN your own flesh, you see...
The former in the flesh of the enemy combatant...
The old wine is good until you drink the new...

It still doesn't work, no matter how many times you try and make it...like I said I don't speak Arse niosnese.
 

glorydaz

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The Navy Seal kills his enemy...

So does the Christian...

One kills an enemy soldier, fairly straightforward...

The other kills the Old Man of Sin, which requires discipleship...

The effort of the first is mild compared to that of the latter...

The latter is killed IN your own flesh, you see...

The former in the flesh of the enemy combatant...

The THINGS I have to explain!



The old wine is good until you drink the new...

Your muddied waters are a Gift...

Arsenios


Sorry I don't know Arseniosnese. Point?

It's a subtle bit of humanism, isn't it? As if we can kill that "old man of sin" by our own efforts. He has to "explain", but I wouldn't drink outa them waters either. :chuckle:
 

Arsenios

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Again I don't speak Arse niosnese. POINT?

The Bible, remember? And who it was written for... From the point of view of those who wrote it... How it was ONLY distributed to the Churches of Christ... And it was NOT distributed to the enemies of God...


Arsenios
 
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Arsenios

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It's a subtle bit of humanism, isn't it?

No humanism at all -

Obedience to God is not humanism...

As if we can kill that "old man of sin" by our own efforts.

Won't happen...
But you have to do the repenting,
that God does the overcoming...

Without you it ain't happening...

You see, the first word of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is

REPENT

He has to "explain", but I wouldn't drink outa them waters either. :chuckle:

I am not the one complaining that my waters are muddied...

And who can possibly BLAME him?

Arsenios
 
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glorydaz

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No humanism at all -

Obedience to God is not humanism...



Won't happen...
But you have to do the repenting,
that God does the overcoming...

Without you it ain't happening...

You see, the first word of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is

REPENT



I am not the one complaining that my waters are muddied...

THAT one is our snotty little Arse-boy name-caller...

And who can possibly BLAME him?

Arsenios

Don't pick those scabs, little boy. Others will see you for what you are. :chuckle:


I can see you're one of those who is confused about the Gospel of salvation. You should be preaching repent and be baptized if you want to be on that side of the cross.

It absolutely is humanism to suggest man can make himself a "new creature" by his "obedience".
 

glorydaz

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The Bible, remember? And who it was written for... From the point of view of those who wrote it... How it was ONLY distributed to the Churches of Christ... And it was NOT distributed to the enemies of God...

Dontcha jes' LOVE y'er Arse?

You sure seem to love to post messages to your Arse...

Your Arse would sure greet YOU with a holy kiss...

Arsenios

Your bait smells of an inability to make your point. Not a good sign.
 

Arsenios

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Don't pick those scabs...

I picked yours till they bled when you called me Arse, remember?

Didn't help you any either...

So I set aside my irritation at the tactic and removed the taunts...

I can see you're one of those who is confused about the Gospel of salvation. You should be preaching repent and be baptized if you want to be on that side of the cross.

I love being on the cross...

That is what following Christ IS...

That is the preaching of the Cross...

You cannot live the Resurrection without dying on the cross...

It absolutely is humanism to suggest man can make himself a "new creature" by his "obedience".

That is why no one suggested it except YOU...

Repentance is obedience to the Gospel of Christ...

Repent is a commandment, you see...

Without repentance there is no remission...

Even though repentance does not earn remission...

Nor does it cause remission of sin...

It just establishes that you are serious in desiring it...

Except the Lord build the house...
In vain do we labor...

and

I will call upon the Name of the Lord...

Thank-you for not calling me Arse...

For all your kicking against the goads of repentance...
It is nice to see that you still do so on occasion...

Jes' sayin'... :)

Arsenios
 
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StanJ

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What have you got against this Greek verb?
τηρειν
You will find it in Matthew 18:20...


Not a thing....where is this verb and what does it have to do with what I posted?

οὗγάρεἰσινδύοτρεῖςσυνηγμένοιεἰςτὸἐμὸνὄνομαἐκεῖεἰμιἐνμέσῳαὐτῶν.
 

Arsenios

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You've heard of legalese? I just don't type really well.

Can I have some of that Florida beach front swamp land too while you're at it?

It is kind funny though, as you're up for humor aren't you?

My name is Arsenios...

I do not like to be called Arse...

Please do not call me Arse...

Will you do that for me?

Thank-you...

Arsenios
 

Arsenios

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Not a thing....where is this verb and what does it have to do with what I posted?

οὗγάρεἰσινδύοτρεῖςσυνηγμένοιεἰςτὸἐμὸνὄνομαἐκεῖεἰμιἐνμέσῳαὐτῶν.

Typo alert - It was 28:20, not 18:20...

Forgive me...

A.
 

Arsenios

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Not a thing....where is this verb and what does it have to do with what I posted?

οὗγάρεἰσινδύοτρεῖςσυνηγμένοιεἰςτὸἐμὸνὄνομαἐκεῖεἰμιἐνμέσῳαὐτῶν.

BYZ –
διδασκοντεςαυτουςτηρεινπανταοσαενετειλαμηνυμινκαιιδουεγω
μεθυμων ειμιπασαςταςημεραςεωςτηςσυντελειαςτουαιωνοςαμην


It specifies the manner of discipleship needed for Salvation....

Refuting the charge of humanistic discipling...

I do not remember why I challenged you with it...

If I do, I will get back to you with it...

Arsenios
 
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StanJ

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Can I have some of that Florida beach front swamp land too while you're at it?
My name is Arsenios...
I do not like to be called Arse...
Please do not call me Arse...
Will you do that for me?
Thank-you...
Arsenios

I think you've already had too much swamp water.

Sure no problem.

Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot aye? Not so humorous now aye?
Lost your levitation aye?
 

StanJ

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BYZ –
διδασκοντεςαυτουςτηρεινπανταοσαενετειλαμηνυμινκαιιδουεγω
μεθυμων ειμιπασαςταςημεραςεωςτηςσυντελειαςτουαιωνοςαμην

It specifies the manner of discipleship needed for Salvation....
Refuting the charge of humanistic discipling...
I do not remember why I challenged you with it...
If I do, I will get back to you with it...
Arsenios

Ahh OK.... τηρεῖν (tēréō), rendered observe? How does that relate to Arsenios?
 

Arsenios

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Arsenios said:
Please do not call me Arse...
Will you do that for me?
Thank-you...
Sure no problem.

Thank-you.

Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot aye?
Not so humorous now aye?
Lost your levitation aye?

Thank-you for confessing your motive...

My problem was that I took offense at your resorting to name-calling in the face of humor... I stand convicted of my own hypocrisy, for I profess to follow Christ, who endured spittings and slappings and tauntings without a word, and I get offended by being called a single name... I was wrong to be offended, and I apologize to you and to all here...

And may I say Thank-you for helping me expose that hidden demon in my soul... Such demons don't do all that well when exposed, you know... Light illumines darkness, and the arrogance of being offended can only hold on for so long, until it is escorted from the stage...

So GD was a Prophetess when she said I would be exposed for what I am, which is a hypocrite... I get offended while professing to follow Christ. And I am in your debt Stan... With your help an enemy of God was overturned...

I will try to keep it overturned with your help...

Please keep me in your prayers...

Arsenios
 
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