Gay Rights or Freedom of Religion and Speech?

[resodko]

Marriage is a concept independent of any religion

no, shacking up is a concept independent of religion

 

[rougueone]

Gay Rights or Freedom of Religion and Speech?

Which is more important?

Should the people be made to give up their religious beliefs, and freedom of speech, for Homosexuals?

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,...

Indiana governor: New law 'not about discrimination'
http://news.yahoo.com/pence-effort-clarify-religious-objections-law-underway-050406066.html

I cannot give up Jesus as Jesus is my lord, friend, and strength.

Irrespective of what the Governemnt mandates, we have the authority to speak the saving love of Jesus all the time.
Remember the Apostles also encountered this...

We are to defy the government and teach Jesus.

“17 Then the high priest rose up, and all those who were with him (which is the sect of the Sadducees), and they were filled with indignation, 18 and laid their hands on the apostles and put them in the common prison.” (Acts 5:17-18)

“19 But at night an angel of the Lord opened the prison doors and brought them out, and said, 20 “Go, stand in the temple and speak to the people all the words of this life.” (Acts 5:19-20)

“21 And when they heard that, they entered the temple early in the morning and taught. But the high priest and those with him came and called the council together, with all the elders of the children of Israel, and sent to the prison to have them brought.” (Acts 5:21)

Upon being freed from prison and hearing God’s command for them, the apostles made their way to the Jerusalem temple where they continued their walk along the narrow path that leads to eternal life, preaching the gospel and teaching seekers about the life, death and resurrection of Yeshua, the begotten Son of God almighty

Imprisonment was only one form of persecution facing the apostles and disciples of the Lord. Soon, the apostles’ lives would be at risk. Eventually, martyr death would find many of them which brings up one question.

How far would we go in Jesus’ name?

 

[rougueone]

In American Christian congregations, it is reported that Gay's are going from congregation to congregation, in search of bringing law suits to obtain the properties of the Christian congregations; that is so they can use the new laws to destroy Christianity. This is done with the help of Judges and Lawyers who advocate for homosexuality.

Christianity cannot be destroyed. Jesus is the Lord of HIS Church-people.
Christianity will suffer persecution, and we are again seeing death to Disciples of our Lord Jesus. but we knew this already. Perhaps we did not expect persecution in our lifetime but it has obviously begun. And will certainly get worse.

We will see how many people really love Jesus when persecution takes off on a larger scale.

 

[rougueone]

For a starter, marriage between a man and woman only, secondly, not be able to preach or speak against homosexuality, thirdly, to be accepted into the congregations. There are those who also want Gay priest. I'm sure there are more things that can be added to the list.

Preach about the penalty of all sins. Why is homosexuality on the front burner of sin ? We are all sinners. lying, stealing, deception, adultery, ++fornication++, ( gee, this one sure gets forgotten) ,ET.... are sins.

Homosexuality is not some exclusive sin that Gods people should focus on. I am going to love all people, as all people are sinners.

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your fellow human as yourself.’

40 All the Law and the Prophets( Genesis to Revelation ) , hang on these two commandments.”

 

[Lighthouse]

if I don’t want to rent out my venue to blacks or gays or jews or irish or swedes or pedophiles or Christians…..what business is it of the government to force me to enter into a business relationship against my will?

:thumb:

P.S.
"Jews," "Irish" and "Swedes" should be capitalized.

 

[resodko]

how can you have a family friendly business when you don't welcome all families?

all families?

 

[resodko]

i'm pretty sure the atrocities and depravity of Sodom are a million times worse in the world today, presently ! ! ! - atrol:

considering that we, as a society, accept as normal the murder of children, homosexuality, pornography, adultery, divorce, children raised by perverts.....

 

[genuineoriginal]

Preach about the penalty of all sins. Why is homosexuality on the front burner of sin ? We are all sinners. lying, stealing, deception, adultery, ++fornication++, ( gee, this one sure gets forgotten) ,ET.... are sins.

Homosexuality is not some exclusive sin that Gods people should focus on. I am going to love all people, as all people are sinners.

How many people claim that stealing, adultery, and fornication are not sins and that Christians should be supporting stealing, adultery, and fornication instead of opposing them?

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your fellow human as yourself.’

40 All the Law and the Prophets( Genesis to Revelation ) , hang on these two commandments.”

Interesting translation of "neighbor" into " fellow human ".
Where did you get it?