gather in His name

[chrysostom]

gather

gather

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name


today is Sunday

we put away our differences

we give thanks
we give praise

we ask for forgiveness
we ask for guidance
we ask for help

we do it together




good night charity

 

[bucksplasher]

Thank God
It's Sunday

tWINs

PS The "band" grows.

 

[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

your scripture in support of John the Baptist is interesting but not sufficient

I have not presented it as proof that he first wrote Revelation

has anyone?

not really but is was suggested by Josephine Massyngberde Ford

well that is rare

but it is reasonable

your suggestion about John Chrysostom is not

it does explain things that others cannot explain

like what?

like how Revelation got into the bible

really?

many had to be convinced it was written by the apostle

many were not convinced

so how did it get in?

do you have a reasonable explanation?

I think I have






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[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so what do you know about John Chrysostom?

he was in Ephesus at the very beginning of the fifth century

doing what?

replacing seven corrupt bishops

were the other six cities named?

no

how long was he there?

at least 3 months and returned to Constantinople just in time for Easter

do we know if he visited Patmos?

no but how could he resist?

so?

before this time we have nothing to confirm that Revelation was indeed part of the official bible

really?

really






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[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so what else do you know about John Chrysostom?

do you know anything about astronomy?

no

neither do I

so why do you mention it?

a Russian astronomer recognized the astronomical setting of Revelation and dated it September 30, 395 for the island of Patmos

so where was John Chrysostom?

he was still in Antioch and didn't get to Constantinople until 397

so you have another problem with dates

not really, the Russians were still using the Julian calendar

so you don't trust dates?

just consider them approximations




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[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so what else do you know about John Chrysostom?

he had a problem with women

could it be the other way around?

just like John the Baptist did

he lost his head

Chrysostom just got banned twice

was he allowed to come back?

not after the second time

did he appeal to the pope?

yes he did

and?

they banned him as well

was this the beginning of the split?

yes it was




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[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so what else do you know about John Chrysostom?

he fits the time period

what time period?

the sixth dynasty of the Roman empire

oh you think the seven kings are the seven dynasties

five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come

I love it when you quote the bible, can you cite the passage?

yes, it is Revelation 17:10 KJV

that is pretty good for a catholic

thank you, thank you very much




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[Charity]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so what else do you know about John Chrysostom?

he fits the time period

what time period?

the sixth dynasty of the Roman empire

oh you think the seven kings are the seven dynasties

five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come

I love it when you quote the bible, can you cite the passage?

yes, it is Revelation 17:10 KJV

that is pretty good for a catholic

thank you, thank you very much




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Seven Heads

So even the Bad hearts are doing What God has Planed.
Large as Mountains, small as ants.
There's a voice inside
that whispers all day Long
I feel this is right for me.
No Preacher, friend or wise man Can decide what God gave me the right to Be.

 

[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so what else do you know about John Chrysostom?

there were two other major players during his time

Jerome was translating the bible

Augustine was writing 'City of God'

is there a connection?

up until that time there was doubt that Revelation should be in the bible

there still is

not if Jerome and Augustine accept it

did Chrysostom?

he never quoted it

what do you make of that?

he didn't have much of a chance to quote it after returning from Ephesus





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[chrysostom]

gather

gather

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name


today is Sunday

we put away our differences

we give thanks
we give praise

we ask for forgiveness
we ask for guidance
we ask for help

we do it together




good night charity

 

[bucksplasher]

Thank God
It's Sunday

tWINs

 

[Charity]

how dose the pope's resignation fit in with the book of Revelations?

 

[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so you have another dating problem

there are problems with dating

Codex Sinaiticus in the 4th century predates Chrysostom

it appears that way

isn't that a showstopper for you?

not really, very little of my views depend on him

then why use him at all?

it may answer more questions than it raises

will you address the questions that it does raise?

I can only question the dating of the manuscript

reasonably?

I think so






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[Totton Linnet]

how dose the pope's resignation fit in with the book of Revelations?

That's a real shocker isn't it.

 

[Charity]

That's a real shocker isn't it.

Yes

An

Maybe not! They will be concerned with fulfilling prophcey an the present day.
As such! They shall need many eyes
In their head.

Vatican City relocated the throne of the Jewish God from jerusluem.

Perhaps god will end the world
remove Allah an his chosen
As it was said
return his estate estate!
When
pain an suffering
Is preached threw out the whole world

 

[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so you question the date of the Codex Sinaiticus?

it is easy to do

how?

the date is based on style of writing which can't be exact

what else?

it is a collection of books so Revelation could have been added at a later date

is there more?

experts agree that there were at least three different scribes involved

and?

it should be obvious that they want to give it the earliest date possible

is that enough for you?

it doesn't take much






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[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so why are there so many different interpretations?

there are many different people

is it important how we interpret it?

not really

so what good is it?

Revelation tells us that the good guys win in the end

is that all?

it also tells us that we must overcometh

does that mean we are being tested?

I think so





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[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so why do you think we are being tested?

He knows our works

aren't we supposed to test the messengers?

make sure they are not liars

how do you do that?

by their works

is that really necessary?

many don't think so

have they been tested?

yes and have been found to be wresting




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[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so why do you think we are being tested?

He knows our works

what does that mean?

He knows what you are doing

He also knows what I believe

are your actions consistent with your beliefs?

of course I am not a hypocrite

then listen to what the Spirit says

I have an ear




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[chrysostom]

hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so why do you think we are being tested?

He knows our works

do you think that will work?

do not fear what you are about to suffer

why must we suffer?

it is part of the test

is it something we have to overcometh?

do you want to learn?

yes

then listen to what the Spirit says

I have an ear




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