Nanja
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Rom 7:5
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
Paul here is writing to believers, however he does point them back to a condition they were in prior to becoming believers, which condition is, they were being in the flesh, which means nothing but being in a natural unregenerate state, and in unbelief, its how we are born into this world naturally from our mothers womb Jn 3:6
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
And the truth is, not one of us in the flesh can do anything to please God Rom 8:8
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
They that are in the flesh, like we are were by nature Rom 7:5
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
While in that state, we cannot have Faith in God, which pleases Him Heb 11:6, which comes to Him, Seeking Him !
So if any of us do truly come to God by Faith which pleases Him per Heb 11:6, its because we were in the Spirit and not in the flesh Rom 8:9
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Coming to God by Faith which pleases Him is to be led of the Spirit Rom 8:14
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. See Gal 3:26
We are only in the Spirit after having been Born again by the Spirit, and a True believer, that is one who has believed the Gospel of their Salvation, having been sealed unto the day of redemption by the Holy Spirit of promise Eph 1:13-14, such a one cannot be in the flesh, because the Spirit by which they were sealed, was in them Rom 8:9
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
But as long as we are in the flesh, we cannot please God, not until we are born of the Spirit !
Exactly!
In order for one to even have the ability to Spiritually Hear the word of Truth Eph. 1:13-14 which is Spiritual,
they must be made Spiritually Alive by the Spirit of God.
So if they have never been Born of the Spirit they have no Salvation.
Their own hearing, trusting and believing were merely works of the flesh Rom. 8:8; Is. 64:6,
and they are deceived!
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