Freewill religion is the Man of Sin !

beloved57

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Freewill religion denies the efficacy of Christ's Saving Blood !2

The Blood of Christ saves in conversion because those its shed for it purges their conscience from dead works to serve the Living God Heb 9:14

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Now Christ dishonoring religion denies this saving efficacy of the Blood of Christ ! Teaching that millions upon millions for whom He shed His Blood remain unrepentant and unconverted from dead works, and never come to Serve the Living God. See Lk 1:74;Heb 12:28 !
 

Nanja

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beloved57
Now Christ dishonoring religion denies this saving efficacy of the Blood of Christ ! Teaching that millions upon millions for whom He shed His Blood remain unrepentant and unconverted from dead works, and never come to Serve the Living God. See Lk 1:74;Heb 12:28 !
Yep, and instead, these millions end up in the lake of fire, the second death Rev. 21:8, to pay the price for their own sins.
 

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beloved57

Yep, and instead, these millions end up in the lake of fire, the second death Rev. 21:8, to pay the price for their own sins.
It's good for you that God believed for you, because you can't. God made you believe, you have been chosen
 

Nanja

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It's good for you that God believed for you, because you can't. God made you believe, you have been chosen


God doesn't believe for His Elect, but enables them to believe on Christ at some point in their lifetime by giving them His Spirit in New Birth, of Whom faith / believing is the fruit of Gal. 5:22.


Rom. 8:9

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.

Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
 
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beloved57

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Carnal religious men blaspheme God in His Foreknowledge/Omniscience, wherein God knows all things intuitively or innately according to His own will and purpose things come to pass, yet men believe God gains knowledge from without Himself, that is He may foreknow or foresee something that may or will occur apart from His own purpose and will from within Himself Acts 15:18

18 [FONT=&quot]Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

See God is much greater than us who must know things by the sight of them, we must see things done before we know it, but not so with God.

If we believe God must look outside of Himself to gain knowledge of anything, we make God like unto His creature man. Ps 50:21

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[FONT=&quot]These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will [/FONT]reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.

How did God know Adam would sin ? Did He know it innately according to His Own Purpose and Will, or from without Himself and saw that Adam would sin, and so gained knowledge of it outside of Himself !
 

Nanja

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Carnal religious men blaspheme God in His Foreknowledge/Omniscience, wherein God knows all things intuitively or innately according to His own will and purpose things come to pass, yet men believe God gains knowledge from without Himself, that is He may foreknow or foresee something that may or will occur apart from His own purpose and will from within Himself Acts 15:18

18 [FONT="]Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000][FONT="]

See God is much greater than us who must know things by the sight of them, we must see things done before we know it, but not so with God.

If we believe God must look outside of Himself to gain knowledge of anything, we make God like unto His creature man. Ps 50:21

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[FONT="]These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will [/FONT]reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.

How did God know Adam would sin ? Did He know it innately according to His Own Purpose and Will, or from without Himself and saw that Adam would sin, and so gained knowledge of it outside of Himself !



God Created Adam, the Federal Head of all the Elect, to sin for a Redemptive Purpose in Christ Jesus, the Lamb Slain from the foundation of the world Rev. 13:8b, so that He would be Glorified by their Salvation from sin. This confirms the fact that God is the Author of sin.

To say that man, the created thing, has a freewill to override the Sovereign Will of God is nothing short of blasphemy !

2 Tim. 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,


Eph. 3:9-11

9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:


Col. 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
 
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beloved57

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Shall know them by their fruit ! Matt 7:15-20

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Christ here assures His True Followers, His Sheep that they shall know false prophets by their fruit. This doesnt denote knowing them by their outward appearance and conduct, because all that is but Sheep clothing. They wont be immoral in lifestyle and conduct, they wont be irreligious, but quite the opposite. How then shall Gods people know them by their fruit ? Hes speaking of the fruit of their doctrine, the fruit of their lips. Isa 57:19

I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the Lord; and I will heal him.

Prov 12:19

The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment.


Thats why John writes try the spirits and 2 Jn 1:10
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
 
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beloved57

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The antichrist deniteh Christ has come ​in the flesh !

1 Jn 2:22

[FONT=&quot]Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is [/FONT]antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 Jn 4:3

[FONT=&quot]And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of [/FONT]antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 Jn 1:7

[FONT=&quot]For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an [/FONT]antichrist.

Now lets understand something, this goes beyond just denying the historical facts that Christ came in the flesh, for many a deceiver admits to that, however, if we believe wrongly about the person and work of Christ, who He is God in the flesh, and what He has accomplished in the Office of Mediator/Surety for His People, that is effecting their full Salvation, if we dont believe these things aright, we are anti Christ, against Christ
 

Nanja

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Shall know them by their fruit ! Matt 7:15-20

[FONT=&]15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
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[FONT=&]16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
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[FONT=&]17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
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[FONT=&]18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
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[FONT=&]19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
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[FONT=&]20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Christ here assures His True Followers, His Sheep that they shall know false prophets by their fruit. This doesnt denote knowing them by their outward appearance and conduct, because all that is but Sheep clothing. They wont be immoral in lifestyle and conduct, they wont be irreligious, but quite the opposite. How then shall Gods people know them by their fruit ? Hes speaking of the fruit of their doctrine, the fruit of their lips. Isa 57:19

I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the Lord; and I will heal him.

Prov 12:19

The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment.[/FONT]


Thats why John writes try the spirits and 2 Jn 1:10
[FONT=&]If there come any unto you, and [/FONT]bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:


Amen, false prophets may appear very religious, exhibiting a moral character and knowledge in the things of God, yet they dishonor Christ by bringing forth bad fruit / false doctrine; in that they lie against the intended Purpose of God Prov. 12:19b with regard to what exactly the Death of Christ accomplished for all whom He died: That being to redeem them by the Grace of God Eph. 1:4-7; no not all men without exception; but exclusively God's Elect, from all iniquity Titus 2:14.
 

beloved57

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Nanja

Amen, false prophets may appear very religious, exhibiting a moral character and knowledge in the things of God, yet they dishonor Christ by bringing forth bad fruit / false doctrine;

Amen you hit the nail on the head !
 

Truster

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If either of you pair understood the damage that exaltation and pride cause you would flee from each other and your consistent back slapping.
 

Nanja

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The antichrist deniteh Christ has come ​in the flesh !

1 Jn 2:22

[FONT="]Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is [/FONT][/COLOR][B]antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.[/B]

1 Jn 4:3

[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of [/FONT]
antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 Jn 1:7

[FONT="]For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an [/FONT][/COLOR][B]antichrist.

[COLOR="#006400"][/B]Now lets understand something, this goes beyond just denying the historical facts that Christ came in the flesh, for many a deceiver admits to that, however, if we believe wrongly about the person and work of Christ, who He is God in the flesh, and what He has accomplished in the Office of Mediator/Surety for His People, that is effecting their full Salvation, if we dont believe these things aright, we are anti Christ, against Christ


Indeed Brother ! Jesus Christ who is God in the flesh, and His coming into the world as Mediator / Surety, was specifically for God's Chosen People, the Elect Royal Seed Eph. 1:4, the Seed of Abraham, the Seed of Christ consisting in the flesh as both jew and gentile.


Heb. 2:14-17

14 Forasmuch then as the children [Eph. 1:5] are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.


Gal. 3:16, 29

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


These scriptures witness to the fact that Christ's Incarnation was not to identify with all of mankind without exception, rather only a Chosen segment out of all humanity, the Seed of Christ.

Is. 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
 

MennoSota

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For a person to have faith that leads to repentance, God must grant it. It does not come by human will.
2 Timothy 2:25-26
God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.

Humans are in slavery. Incapable of being free. God must free them or they will remain slaves of the devil unto eternity.
 

beloved57

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Indeed Brother ! Jesus Christ who is God in the flesh, and His coming into the world as Mediator / Surety, was specifically for God's Chosen People, the Elect Royal Seed Eph. 1:4, the Seed of Abraham, the Seed of Christ consisting in the flesh as both jew and gentile.


Heb. 2:14-17

14 Forasmuch then as the children [Eph. 1:5] are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.


Gal. 3:16, 29

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


These scriptures witness to the fact that Christ's Incarnation was not to identify with all of mankind without exception, rather only a Chosen segment out of all humanity, the Seed of Christ.

Is. 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Amen!
 

beloved57

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For a person to have faith that leads to repentance, God must grant it. It does not come by human will.
2 Timothy 2:25-26
God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.

Humans are in slavery. Incapable of being free. God must free them or they will remain slaves of the devil unto eternity.

So True !
 

beloved57

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The wide gate to destruction !

Matt 7:13

13 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Enter ye in at the strait gate:[/FONT] for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]What I believe Jesus is speaking of here is the natural mans religions. Even though the natural mans religions are many and diverse, yet one thing they all will have in common, and that is God loves all mankind without exception and Christ died for all men without exception. Or they believe that redemption of some sort is available indiscriminately. Yet all these concepts and their variables are foreign and contrary to sound biblical truth and characterize being on that wide road to destruction ![/FONT]
 

Nanja

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The wide gate to destruction !

Matt 7:13

13 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Enter ye in at the strait gate:[/FONT] for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]What I believe Jesus is speaking of here is the natural mans religions. Even though the natural mans religions are many and diverse, yet one thing they all will have in common, and that is God loves all mankind without exception and Christ died for all men without exception. Or they believe that redemption of some sort is available indiscriminately. Yet all these concepts and their variables are foreign and contrary to sound biblical truth and characterize being on that wide road to destruction ![/FONT]


Yes they are ! And another false concept the natural man's religion teaches, is that God's Grace was provided for all men without exception. Yet why would God save by Grace any He did not choose in the Election of Grace ? For those He did not choose are called "the rest", for which it was His Will and Purpose that they be blinded to the Truth Rom. 11:7; Jude 1:4; Job 23:13-14.
 

beloved57

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Yes they are ! And another false concept the natural man's religion teaches, is that God's Grace was provided for all men without exception. Yet why would God save by Grace any He did not choose in the Election of Grace ? For those He did not choose are called "the rest", for which it was His Will and Purpose that they be blinded to the Truth Rom. 11:7; Jude 1:4; Job 23:13-14.

Amen Sister !
 
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