Freewill religion is the Man of Sin !

beloved57

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Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace !

Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace !

What Grace ? Salvation is to the Praise of the Glory of His Grace. Which Grace is Paul speaking of ? Well go back up to Eph 1:3-4

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Its the Election or Choice of Grace Rom 11:5-6

5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Now if Grace is unmerited, undeserved favour toward sinful and rebellious man, as we all are by nature, and God has determined to save only some men by Grace [Election of Grace], then why is God Charged with being an unfair monster? Such thinking reveals a spirit of pride, and believes that God is indebted to man. This thinking therefore denies Salvation by Grace, and makes it out of debt. Yes, Grace is now reduced to something that God owes sinners. If God does not give give all all sinners without exception Saving Grace, then God is labeled as a Monster ! This is True with some Freewillers and its True with the Universalist; for each of these groups operate from the premise in their thinking that God is indebted to man, and so quite frankly both of these groups deny Salvation by Grace, because Salvation by Grace means Salvation by God's discriminating Grace, which He only gives to some men and not all. If God is Unjust if He does not save or offer to save all without exception, then Salvation cannot be by Grace, but of debt, there is no other conclusion.

Rom 11:

5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
 
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beloved57

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Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace !

Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace !

The Natural Man in Our Pride, charge God with being Unfair, if He does not give guilty man a chance at being saved. Well if that is the case, you may as well call God unfair and unjust for not giving the the Angels that sinned a Chance , none recorded in scripture. 2 Pet 2:4

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

This word here sinned, it is the greek word hamartanō and means:


to be without a share in

2) to miss the mark

3) to err, be mistaken

4) to miss or wander from the path of uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong

5) to wander from the law of God, violate God's law, sin

Those Angels sinned against God's Law ! This presupposes that Angels were under Law to God in Heaven.

Now scripture indicates that God showed them no mercy, but the severity of God as Paul mentions in Rom 11:22

22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity;

I personally believe God did not Love those Angels that sinned.

But now if God is Love, which He is 1 Jn 4:8,16, then Why did He not out of Love and Pity and Mercy deal with these Angels that sinned, with Mercy ? They were His Creatures, they were called Sons of God, probably referred to here Job 38:7

When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?


We know that there are Elect Angels 1 Tim 5:21, So we know God had a High Esteem for them, and no doubt God Loved them. Look at Gabriel. Now does this mean God is no longer Love, that He is not Merciful, and not Gracious since He showed none of these to the Angels that sinned ? Now if we are consistent in our thinking, and do agree that God has dealt with the Fallen Angels Unmercifully, then we must Charge God with being an Unjust God.

If not, then we are saying that we are better than God's Angels that sinned and that is pride, the pride of man thinking.
 
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beloved57

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Exposing a false religion !

Prov 14:5

5A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.


Any religion or person who says they are separated from religion, that teaches that Salvation is in any way conditioned on man, in that man is required to perform anything, make any choice, is a false religion, it does not matter who it is, the pope or a popular reform pastor teacher, it is a false gospel, that is under strong delusion..
 

beloved57

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What characterizes false teaching !

What characterizes false teaching !

Every profession of religion that teaches that one's salvation is in any way dependent on the sinner, is a false religion, and unless God grants them repentance, they are on their way to an Christless Eternity and damned forever ! Those who are teaching that one must do something, to add man's effort to the Sovereign Grace of God, which alone saves a man, that man must add his will to the Sovereign Will of God,Paul says we are delivered by the Will of God Gal 1:4

4Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

or some say that man must make a decision before the will of God can deliver or rescue us from our sins, indicating that the blood of Christ alone did not complete the Job, all such teaching is the man of sin. Any religion that teaches that God wants to save everyone, however He can't or will not without man's cooperation, or that Christ died to redeem everyone but it does not come to past unless man chooses to allow it, all these lies are from the man of sin !
 

beloved57

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What characterizes false teaching !

What characterizes false teaching !

Jesus told His disciples that wolves would come in Sheep Clothing, however He assured them that they would know them by their fruits, not by outward appearance, but by the Fruit of their understanding of Salvation. Matt 7:18-20

18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

All false religions, no matter how close they may resemble the Truth, will always fall short of Salvation entirely of Grace. They will always finally sneak a work of man into the equation as to how God save sinners.

Many will teach that one is saved by keeping commandments of God ! Repentance is such a commandment. Acts 17:30

30And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

It would hard to deny that repentance is not a commandment of God from this verse !

Or they teach that man is saved by his doing good as in Rom 2:7

To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Or that one is saved by getting water baptized or some other religious observance ! Many use Acts 2:38 to teach that a man is not saved until he gets water baptized, and some take it a step further and say that this water baptism must include say it is done in the name of Jesus Christ before it is valid !


What is common in our day, the teaching that one must make a decision to accept Christ as their Saviour !

This can go on and on, but one thing for certain, these deceived ones cannot at anytime give a plain unadulterated Testimony of salvation by the Sovereign grace of God, because Jesus said it here Matt 7:18

18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

A corrupt tree, one not born again, cannot, has not the ability, to bring forth good fruit, meaning a good testimony of the Gospel of God's Grace and Salvation through Jesus Christ !
 
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beloved57

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Gal 3:11

Gal 3:11

Gal 3:11

11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

The word law here is the greek word nomos and means:


anything established, anything received by usage, a custom, a law, a command

a) of any law whatsoever

1) a law or rule producing a state approved of God

a) by the observance of which is approved of God

2) a precept or injunction

Often times when we see the word law in scripture we immediately think of the Ten Commandments or the Mosaic Law which the scriptures do call the Law. However the word here inspired by God through Paul means more than the Mosaic Law or the Commandments, but does include any command whatsover, a law or rule producing a state approved of God, like Faith Heb 11:6

6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

For a person to insist that they are Justified before God, or in His sight because of their faith, that God declared them Righteous before Him because they exercised faith, then that person is claiming Justification by his work of the law ! Matt 23:23

23Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Faith according to the Saviour was one of the more important things of the Law which should not be left undone ! Faith in God and His Promise of the Messiah, all the sacrifices they did pointed to Him. Lk 24:44

And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Jn 5:46

For had ye believed[Faith] Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

Faith was not something new to the people of God, for the Prophets preached Faith Hab 2:4

4Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.

The Righteous or Justified man in the OT lived by Faith of the coming Messiah, who they realized was their Justification before God. The Father of the Faithful saw His Day and was Glad Jn 8:56

Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
 
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beloved57

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More on Gal 3:11

More on Gal 3:11

The jews whom Jesus was speaking to and of in Matt 23, above all people had been given the law, in all its ceremonies, sacrifices and institutions, which all prefigured and foreshadowed Christ, and pointed to Him, to have Faith in His Blood as the basis of their acceptance and righteousness before God, this Paul points out in Rom 3:25,27

25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

This was the Law of Faith vs 27

27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

And this is what Jesus meant as to Faith being a more weighter matter of the Law Matt 23:23. So again, if one insists they are Justified before God, on the account of their Faith, then they are claiming Justification before God on account of keeping the Law, and such thinking is condemned by scripture !
 

beloved57

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More on Gal 3:11

More on Gal 3:11

You see Faith is not something that man was supposed to do as a condition to get justified before God, that's works, but it was a God given grace that revealed a Persons Justification before God based on Christ's Christ's obedience alone, and His imputed Righteousness laid to their account, so Faith revealed to them the object [Christ] who was their Justification and Righteousness before God Phil 3:9, His Blood Rom 3:25.

So it depends on how one understands Justification by Faith Rom 5:1, if they understand it as a condition one must meet and exercise in order to become Justified before God, which is works of the Law Justification, or if you view it as an God given grace by the Spirit of God, that reveals to you, your already Justified state before God because of Christ's blood and imputed righteousness on your account. This is no trifling matter but of momentous importance, for it makes the difference on whether one is saved or reprobate, for what a man thinketh in his heart, so is he Prov 23:7

For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.

If you or i believe that we are Justified before God, in His sight, because of our Faith, then we base it upon Law, and we defined the word law in the verse it is nomos :

anything established, anything received by usage, a custom, a law, a command

a) of any law whatsoever

1) a law or rule producing a state approved of God ***

a) by the observance of which is approved of God

2) a precept or injunction

3) the rule of action prescribed by reason

b) of the Mosaic law, and referring, acc. to the context. either to the volume of the law or to its contents

c) the Christian religion: the law demanding faith, the moral instruction given by Christ, esp. the precept concerning love

d) the name of the more important part (the Pentateuch), is put for the entire collection of the sacred books of the OT

If that is your thinking, and God knows, you are a debtor to do the whole Law, for you have fallen from grace !
 

beloved57

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Denies Salvation is solely premised on the Will of God !

Denies Salvation is solely premised on the Will of God !

The Man of sin religion will deny that Salvation is sure to its recipients solely based upon the Will of God ! They believe and teach that even though God wills all men to be saved and come into the Knowledge of the Truth, that this will of God can and is frustrated by the will of man ! 1 Tim 2:4

4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

The word for will here is the greek word thelō:


to will, have in mind, intend

a) to be resolved or determined, to purpose

b) to desire, to wish

c) to love

1) to like to do a thing, be fond of doing

d) to take delight in, have pleasure

They teach that God's desire, wish or resolve and determination is not enough to save a person and bring them into a knowledge of the Truth.

They teach that God's unwillingness for some not to perish, that its not enough for them not to perish ! 2 Pet 3:9

9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

God not willing these not to perish, is not enough for them not to perish according to these false teachers. Man's will trumps His ! There will is superior to God's !

So When Paul says that the saved were delivered by the will of God Gal 1:6

4Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

They will add, that in order for that deliverance to have occurred, it must have also been according to the sinners will too or God's will would not have been enough !
 

beloved57

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The man of sin religion denies the Truth of scripture that God is He who works [All things] after the counsel of HIS OWN WILL !

Eph 1:11

11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

And no it does not matter what context this truth about God is found. Just because a certain truth about God is found in a particular context, does not limit that which was said about God to that particular context. A pagan King said something very similar about God in a entirely different context Dan 4:35

35And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

Also the Spirit said in Dan 4:25

25That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.

Now if this be True, why should we not believe that the Most High giveth the Kingdom of Heaven to whomsoever He will ?? Lk 12:32

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

The man of sin religion teaches that God's own will cannot and will not overcome man's own will, but that God's will shall succumb to man's will, if man chooses not to cooperate with God's Will, and so man's will prevails, lest God shall be charged with forcing man to do something against his freewill ! So God gives way to man's superior will !

Scripture should be changed to:

11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of mans freewill will:
 
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beloved57

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They teach God's will is frustrated by men !

They teach God's will is frustrated by men !

Gal 1:4

4Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

5To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.


God's intention and purpose and will behind Christ dying for the sins of those He died for as per 1 Cor 15:3-4

3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

It was so that he would deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God the Father !

Now if this does not occur for each and everyone Christ gave Himself in behalf of [The Church Eph 5:25], God the Father's will is frustrated, thwarted, defeated. Those who teach such things are Antichrist, and anti God, neither do they give God the Glory due His Name vs 5 !

All those who preach a Gospel that does not have God through Christ, Saving all for whom He died or gave Himself in behalf of, they are preaching a false gospel, a gospel of man, the man of sin ! They teach God's will is frustrated by men !
 

beloved57

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The man of sin religion falsely preaches that the objects of God's Love in giving His Only Begotten Son Jn 3:16, is all of humanity , every single individual, however the scripture tells us otherwise. Scripture makes it quite clear that only a particular People are the Objects of Christ's Love and Death ! Matt 1:21

21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Jn 13:1

1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

Eph 5:25

25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

Jn 10:11,15

11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

The Purpose of the Incarnation was to save His People from their sins, to save His Church ! Jesus has clearly stated this. Also Jesus makes it clear that not all sinners are His Sheep Jn 10:26

26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

All men are sinners, but not all sinners are sheep. That Christ's Sheep are sinners is seen from the fact that Christ must lay down His Life for them Rom 5:8

8But God commendeth his love toward us[The Church], in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

So all men without exception are sinful sinners, but not all men without exception are sinners that are Sheep, and Christ only specified that He layed down His Life for the Sheep !
 
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beloved57

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Since the man of sin religion rejects the Truth of God's discriminate Election of some to Salvation by Grace, then those who shall be the objects of God's Justice were not determined by God, but by men. In their false gospel men, not God determines who are objects of God's Saving Grace or of His Divine Justice, which contradicts Rom 9:20-23

20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

This passage of the Gospel that Paul Preached tells us God made and determined which vessels were made for destruction and which ones made for His mercy !

The man of sin religions deny God this prerogative and gives it to man and his so called freewill, making him God over his own destiny !
 

beloved57

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If possible they shall deceive the very elect !

If possible they shall deceive the very elect !

Matt 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Jesus warned His Church of these things, and what to expect in the very end time right before His Second Coming ! Most False preachers of our day, who call themselves preachers of Grace, that is, Salvation by Grace instead of the Law, these have fallen prey to a subtle heresy called neonomianism :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonomianism

Which basically teaches that the Gospel is a New Law prescribed by the New covenant, a much easier or duty or requirement or obligation that man can perform in order to get saved, however this subtlety undermines Salvation by Grace, for all it does is replace the mosaic law keeping for salvation, with evangelical duties and laws such as believing and repenting, which still makes Salvation to be by works or law keeping, and falls short of the biblical teaching of Salvation by Grace ! Its a False Gospel, a extremely popular and accepted in organized religion today ! But Thank God for Election, for His Elect will escape this deadly deception !
 
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tudorturtl

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Quite simply my friend, if there is not free will, there can not be love, and we are all just robots doing what we were programmed to do, so leave us alone.
Because we have no free will to change our minds and follow what you say. so why huff and puff?
 

meshak

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Belove,

You make up your own Gospel and following violent man Calvin, you should not call yourself Christian. You are lying to God and to the world.
 

beloved57

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Belove,

You make up your own Gospel and following violent man Calvin, you should not call yourself Christian. You are lying to God and to the world.

Yeah right, you just reject the Truth, call it what you may ! We will see at the Judgment !
 

meshak

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Yeah right, you just reject the Truth, call it what you may ! We will see at the Judgment !

When you make up your own doctrine and follow man, you are rejecting the Truth, man.

And you dont know the fact that you are not the judge of yourselvs claiming to be elect or saved or born again or whatever. You guys are in a mess.

You don't know the Lord is. Get back to the basics instead of pretedning to be know-it-all.
 

ThePresbyteers

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I found lots of free will instructions in this book
and still haven't found any in the Bible


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