They don't speak the truth. I'm sure it would break Paul's heart to know that some have twisted what he said to make an excuse to rely on their own flesh instead of the one.
Amen.
They don't speak the truth. I'm sure it would break Paul's heart to know that some have twisted what he said to make an excuse to rely on their own flesh instead of the one.
Hi meshak,
They are twisting the gospel to suit their flesh, and remember, they don't only twist what Paul taught but Jesus too!
Going so far as to say that the teachings of Jesus aren't for them and only for the Jews. And why? Because those who set up their church have changed the gospel including what Paul preaches to suit man, gone is obedience to God and Christ even though Paul teaches that we are to obey, gone is to do Gods will. Gone is being a doer of the word, thats just for the Jews, gone is enduring to the end, again for the Jews only, gone is denying themselves or baring their cross to follow Jesus, thats for Jews only.
And what have they come up with? They twist the meaning of being saved by grace to mean to do nothing, and that's all they believe in, their do nothing gospel, and most of the time they miss out through faith! They can lie, cheat, deceive and do whatever their flesh desires, and why? Because Jesus was crucified to save them and all their sins are in hell and God doesn't see their sins he only sees Jesus. Well I'm afraid they do greatly err, because if we are living by our flesh and loving the world, not living by the will of God, then Jesus Christ is nowhere in sight!
Matthew 7:21-23
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?*And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 12:50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Fatherwhich is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
God only sees Christ in us, he doesn't want to see our flesh he wants that dead and gone, he wants to see the life of his son and his righteousness in and through us. And if Christ is within our hearts by the power of the spirit we will begin to overcome the sins of our flesh.
Please don't disbelieve Paul because others have twisted his word. They don't speak the truth. I'm sure it would break Paul's heart to know that some have twisted what he said to make an excuse to love their flesh.
If we didn't have to do anything, then Paul, Peter, James, John and all the other apostles wouldn't have had to do anything either, they would only have had to believe, but that didn't happen. They obeyed God and lived by his will and followed Christ. And if we truly follow Christ then we are to lay down our lives, obey God, do his will becoming a living sacrifice and God will dwell in our hearts and his love will be in and through us and the life and light of Christ will shine through us in this dark world with the hope through Christ, of bringing as many back to God as possible.
Jesus Christ came as an example for us to follow him, so if Christ is an example to follow, then we are to live as he did and love God with all our hearts and minds and our neighbours as ourselves, and live by the will of the living God
I think Peter wanted to believe Paul is genuine servant. Peter is truly faithful one, and even he thought Paul's teaching is hard to understand.
Let me ask you this:
Do you think we need Paul's word to follow Jesus' teaching or His gospel?
No it's not irrelevant, Judas went and hung himself, so do we Spiritually if we carry on wilfully sinning once we have repented. We die spiritually by our own hand, because we put our flesh and sin before God!
I think Peter wanted to believe Paul is genuine servant. Peter is truly faithful one, and even he thought Paul's teaching is hard to understand.
Let me ask you this:
Do you think we need Paul's word to follow Jesus' teaching or His gospel?
Yet people like John W, and most Madists, teach that he as a believer, can kill 600 men and it will not affect his salvation.
Now is God lying or is John W.
Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
LA
Excellent post - spot onConfirmed-all we get from you is spam, under the influence.
Irrelevant, changing the subject...you "argued:"
You missed it, again, clown. We have challenged you on this for years, moron, and all we get from you is spam, under the influence.
Slower: You "argue" that we must "repent," and assert that "repent" means to "stop sinning...turn from sin..."
We point out that cannot be, idiot, for the LORD God "repented, as did Judas.
Is that too deep for you, moron?
Repent means "to change your mind," the context tells us about what you are to change your mind.
But you are either too stupid, or demonic, or drunk, to get that-even a 6 year old can understand it.
Anyone who believes that they can live how they please, not obey God and not live by his will, and it's all done for them by Christ Jesus and they have nothing to do are believing a false gospel, and from what I'm reading here that's what your church teaches. And it's not the truth!
Excellent post - spot on
Full ContextWanted to capture this for the record.
AMR
Consider this... I don't think you're lost when you believe in Spiritual Israel or are Arian. But... you are a teacher by being here. You get cornered for connecting Jesus to obedience... but you admit your fleshly failure. You are a Spirit led individual.
This is my bigggg dislike of "Arianism".
It makes people believe they can accomplish the carnal righteousness of God. I'm not trying to convert your theology... but consider this. We are blessed to have a humble King that got off his A$$ and came down here with all of us sinners. Creation and Creator walked as ONE. I tear up when I think of this. God would rather wash our filthy feet with His Love than Lord over us from His heavenly Phifedom.
I'm sure this may seem crude to you... but I would be sawn in two with a dull blade for God. Why? Because He is the Humble servant King of ALL Love.
I spit on the Trinity Doctrine. Yup... I believe in God the Father, God the Son and The Spirit Of Christ that indwells our filthy tents (Romans 8:9), like the glory of God in the tabernacle, amongst grumbling Israel. But.. heck.. we grumble too. It's human. We get Mannah from the sky every day, but we ask God for more and more. Israel is no different than us in that respect. We all need, need, need and God provides, provides, provides.
Why do I hate the Trinity doctrine? Because it divides... there are 1000 divisions just amongst trinitarians.
I read the Bible and take it at the value that there are mysteries we can have fun discussing, but they remain mystery. Deut6:4 is repeated by Jews every day in Prayer... the Trinity doctrine says God is one but three. This is BS. The distinct expressions of God in the three ways that testify are there, but God is no liar! If Deuteronomy 6:4 says ONE... than it's a TRUE ONE.
How is Jesus the Incarnate Father and the physical glory of God?
IDK! I just believe it! I don't know is the first step to learning. Men want to shove their understandings and articulation down people's throats, but they ROB God when they do this.
God is supposed to teach us these things. It's like a Father taking His kids fishing. Imagine if God wanted to teach his kid how to tie a fishing lure but some butt comes along and teaches the kid how to do it differently!
This is the danger of worthless doctrines that bring division.
Spiritual Israel is serious to me, because it teaches people to expect that Jesus will hate Israel and destroy it! In Islam... their false Christ is prophesied to come and do just that... I don't know if this is the mystery of the "anti Christ", but if it is... Spiritual Israel doctrine teaches the troops to expect the wrong Jesus. There.. I just tore my human Spiritual heart out and showed it to you and everyone on this site. I might get crapped on for some things I just said and be seen as worthless. [MENTION=7209]Ask Mr. Religion[/MENTION] would jump on me for what I said here... but Sister... I'm real with this Jesus stuff, and I would eat with pigs in the mud and fecies of Pigs for Jesus. I hate Christian division and seriously seem to bring it when I speak, but I genuinely see that we have a "Father" that gets on His "knees" and plays hot wheels with us. That's how I see Jesus.
I'm not better than you or anyone for seeing it this way... but I ache for the unity, only the Physical presence of God will bring. ( John 10:30, Rev. 21:22)
Forgive me for asking... but please answer this one insane question from your human heart, and maintain your actual conviction... please.....
How would it make you feel... how valuable...
If God literally joined with His Creation and walked among us and laughed and cried with us? If He dangled on that cross, knowing every sin you have and ever would commit... and died in flesh.. in your place.. thinking "I Love Marhig and would rather experience this pain, than spend eternity without her!" If He was Father weeping over Himself Son being destroyed by His created children, but he felt that he would rather Saccrifice His own SON than spend eternity without you?
Now... how would it make you feel to know that his death afforded him peace with your forgiven sins and now this very JESUS dwells in your heart... for real.. God is in you.. HIM.. JESUS (romans 8:9)
How deeply valuable would that make you feel and how deeply would you embrace that treasure in your Heart?
Please... please... hate me for saying these things... but please honestly consider the ideas, and respond from the perspective that I'm right... after you share that...
You can call me a blasphemous heretic that deserves to burn at the stake... but please put your heart into your replie and for just this silly idea.. answer as if I am right.
- Peace.
Capture this while you're at it... You're propagation of false doctrines and cookie cutter beliefs keeps people Arian. If you represent someone who believes Jesus is God... you do it so poorly by pouring over the ways men define the mystery.Forgive me for asking... but please answer this one insane question from your human heart, and maintain your actual conviction... please.....
How would it make you feel... how valuable...
If God literally joined with His Creation and walked among us and laughed and cried with us? If He dangled on that cross, knowing every sin you have and ever would commit... and died in flesh.. in your place.. thinking "I Love Marhig and would rather experience this pain, than spend eternity without her!" If He was Father weeping over Himself Son being destroyed by His created children, but he felt that he would rather Saccrifice His own SON than spend eternity without you?
Now... how would it make you feel to know that his death afforded him peace with your forgiven sins and now this very JESUS dwells in your heart... for real.. God is in you.. HIM.. JESUS (romans 8:9)
How deeply valuable would that make you feel and how deeply would you embrace that treasure in your Heart?
Please... please... hate me for saying these things... but please honestly consider the ideas, and respond from the perspective that I'm right... after you share that...
Marhig...
We never pick up our corpse of a body and claim to be improving or more "righteous".
This is a form of Spiritual Pride... it is "Spiritual Beauty" and boasting in our self perceived "growth" / Obedience. Think of it this way...
Is God Proud, or Humble?
If you see God is humble and you believe He is Love incarnate... you will see that counting our success or failure is absolutely WORTHLESS.
God's work of Salvation is all we need.
Ephesians 2:8 ... what does this mean?
Consider this... let's say a girl is molested by her father and runs away from home at the age of 14. She gets pumped by the age of 16 and is using heroine to deal with the pain of the soul. Imagine that an evangelist teaches her the true meaning of Ephesians 2:8 ... over the next 20 years of her life, she struggles with life and drugs... sex and hating herself.
But she claims Jesus love every day of her life...
Now imagine that you are talking to this girl one day and she drinks to kill the pain, and shoots once a year to celebrate her freedom from prostitution and her newfound forgiveness towards her father... that she found in Jesus.
To you... what would she be, and would you see the amazing work she is to Jesus, or would you try to make her a "better" "Christian"?
Anyone that would offer the hand of fellowship in the faith to an Arian is confused at best, in rebellion against God at worst.
In the world it is called Tolerance, but in hell it is called Despair for it is the sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing, and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die.
For me, Christ's words (Luke 12:51) disprove any notions that Jesus came to unite all humanity (godly and ungodly) into a single "universal brotherhood of man." Rather, He divided them as they have never been divided before.
AMR
The word "repented" obviously does not mean "stopped sinning".
Obvious to those that are not blind and stupid of scripture.
Foolish, blind, stupid woman.
In the dictionary????
I gave you several scriptures which has GOD repenting.
You think GOD was sorry because He sinned and that's why He repented????
This is beyond stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!
Scripture interprets scripture.
Believe the scriptures.
GOD repented.
Ask saint john to describe the Emancipation Proclamation.
God doesn't have to repent of sins---WE DO.
I gave you several scriptures which has GOD repenting.
Scripture interprets scripture.
Believe the scriptures.
GOD repented.
He repented.
Hahahahahahahahaha
Jesus tells us right here that REPENT is to STOP sinning.
2 Corinthians 12:21 I am afraid that when I come again, my God may humiliate me before you, and I will grieve for many of those who previously sinned and have not repented of the impurity, sexual immorality, and licentiousness that they have practiced.
Wrong. God is immutable. Unchangable.
I would bet you have never studied the divine attributes of God, at all.