End of Roe Vs Wade?

Lon

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Like the laughing icon. It reminds me of when Trump won the election and all the other side that were laughing suddenly changed to tears. I don't know if the brief can overturn that poor decision, but certainly 'we' as a nation need to protect life, not be participants in taking them. ULM!
 

marke

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Like the laughing icon. It reminds me of when Trump won the election and all the other side that were laughing suddenly changed to tears. I don't know if the brief can overturn that poor decision, but certainly 'we' as a nation need to protect life, not be participants in taking them. ULM!
Democrats see federal funding of abortion facilities that donate millions to the democrat party in return as constitutional duty, of all things. Abortionists do not understand or do not care how depraved murdering unborn babies is.

Rep. Joseph Morelle (D-NY) took to the House floor Wednesday to argue for taxpayer dollars to kill babies. Morelle claimed it was a constitutional right and compared it with free speech and choosing a religion.
“I do note that in my home state of New York, we’ve made the decision for many years to support women in poverty who seek reproductive rights,” Morelle said.
“Rights are granted to us under the Constitution. Those rights are as fundamental as any other right guaranteed to us under the Constitution. But we don’t have economic tests for rights in the United States. So if you have a right, you have a right.”
 

marke

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Democrats see federal funding of abortion facilities that donate millions to the democrat party in return as constitutional duty, of all things. Abortionists do not understand or do not care how depraved murdering unborn babies is.

Rep. Joseph Morelle (D-NY) took to the House floor Wednesday to argue for taxpayer dollars to kill babies. Morelle claimed it was a constitutional right and compared it with free speech and choosing a religion.
“I do note that in my home state of New York, we’ve made the decision for many years to support women in poverty who seek reproductive rights,” Morelle said.
“Rights are granted to us under the Constitution. Those rights are as fundamental as any other right guaranteed to us under the Constitution. But we don’t have economic tests for rights in the United States. So if you have a right, you have a right.”
Heinrich Himmler made a name for himself as he rose to power among Hitler's elite, brutally overseeing the murder of millions of Jews. Pelosi is making a name for herself among American democrats overseeing the murder of millions of unborn babies.

The count is now at 55 times over the last month. That’s how many times Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her Democrat colleagues in the House have blocked a request from Republicans on the House floor to have a vote on a bill to ban taxpayer-funding of abortions.
Three members of the House asked for a vote on the pro-life bill yesterday and each of them were denied the request by Pelosi and Democrats in the chair at her behest. Rep. John Rutherford (R-FL), Rep. Randy Feenstra (R-IA), and Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-TX) each tried to secure a vote on the bill but were denied.
Afterwards, Feensta complained about being blocked from voting on the bill.
“Americans should not be forced to fork over tax dollars so defenseless babies can be murdered on their dime,” he said.
 

Derf

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Heinrich Himmler made a name for himself as he rose to power among Hitler's elite, brutally overseeing the murder of millions of Jews. Pelosi is making a name for herself among American democrats overseeing the murder of millions of unborn babies.

The count is now at 55 times over the last month. That’s how many times Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her Democrat colleagues in the House have blocked a request from Republicans on the House floor to have a vote on a bill to ban taxpayer-funding of abortions.
Three members of the House asked for a vote on the pro-life bill yesterday and each of them were denied the request by Pelosi and Democrats in the chair at her behest. Rep. John Rutherford (R-FL), Rep. Randy Feenstra (R-IA), and Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-TX) each tried to secure a vote on the bill but were denied.
Afterwards, Feensta complained about being blocked from voting on the bill.
“Americans should not be forced to fork over tax dollars so defenseless babies can be murdered on their dime,” he said.
Despite how sad this is, if the actual, premeditated, serial killing of millions of persons in the womb doesn't rise to the level of a federal crime, this is but a small thing to fund the crime. Both make America guilty, whether we approve of the abortions (fund them) or approve of the abortions (don't prosecute them) in the eyes of God.
 

marke

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Despite how sad this is, if the actual, premeditated, serial killing of millions of persons in the womb doesn't rise to the level of a federal crime, this is but a small thing to fund the crime. Both make America guilty, whether we approve of the abortions (fund them) or approve of the abortions (don't prosecute them) in the eyes of God.
Yes, America is guilty but no, individuals do not have to share in God's judgment of the guilty as long as they speak out against the atrocities and wickedness.

Ezekiel 9

4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
 

Derf

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Yes, America is guilty but no, individuals do not have to share in God's judgment of the guilty as long as they speak out against the atrocities and wickedness.

Ezekiel 9

4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
We still have a stake in the judgment, and are culpable, like Daniel was, though he was righteous before God:
Daniel 9:4-15 (KJV) 4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments; 5 We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: 6 Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land. 7 O Lord, righteousness [belongeth] unto thee, but unto us confusion of faces, as at this day; to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and unto all Israel, [that are] near, and [that are] far off, through all the countries whither thou hast driven them, because of their trespass that they have trespassed against thee. 8 O Lord, to us [belongeth] confusion of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, because we have sinned against thee. 9 To the Lord our God [belong] mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebelled against him; 10 Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets. 11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that [is] written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him. 12 And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against us, and against our judges that judged us, by bringing upon us a great evil: for under the whole heaven hath not been done as hath been done upon Jerusalem. 13 As [it is] written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth. 14 Therefore hath the LORD watched upon the evil, and brought it upon us: for the LORD our God [is] righteous in all his works which he doeth: for we obeyed not his voice. 15 And now, O Lord our God, that hast brought thy people forth out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and hast gotten thee renown, as at this day; we have sinned, we have done wickedly.
 

marke

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Yes, America is guilty but no, individuals do not have to share in God's judgment of the guilty as long as they speak out against the atrocities and wickedness.

Ezekiel 9

4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Democrat barbarians are renewing their efforts to force all Americans to pay for the bloody murder of unborn babies by organizations that return large portions of that funding to democrats in the form of campaign contributions. God will severely judge these monsters.

House Democrats passed the first bill ever to eliminate the Hyde Amendment and force Americans to fund the killing of unborn babies in abortions.
On a 219-208 vote, Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats passed spending bills that, unless blocked by the Senate, would eliminate the Hyde Amendment and other longstanding pro-life policies that prevent taxpayer funding of abortion on demand. Today’s vote follows the passage on Wednesday of a spending bill that would force Americans to directly fund abortion overseas.
 

User Name

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Like the laughing icon....

Sorry to rain on your parade, Lon, but I figured you could use a dose of reality to counteract your illusions. The fact of the matter is that it is the Republican Party that has given us legalized abortion, so there isn't any hope of the Republican Party ever making it illegal again. As Pastor Bob Enyart (the owner of this site) has so aptly observed:

* Abortion Nationally is from the Republican Supreme Court:
- Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote Roe v. Wade.
- The 1973 Roe 7-to-2 opinion was approved with a Republican majority of five votes.
- The 1992 landmark Casey opinion upheld "abortion rights" though 8 Republicans and a single pro-life Democrat (who dissented) comprised the court.
- In 2002 Casey author and Republican Justice Antonin Scalia said, "I will also strike down a law that is the opposite of Roe v. Wade."
- In 2008 on ABC's 60 Minutes Scalia said, "there are anti-abortion people who think that... the [constitution's] equal protection clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that's still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that's wrong."
- In 2012 Republican Chief Justice John Roberts voted to uphold the socialist, pro-abortion Obamacare.
- In 2017 Republican Gorsuch became the poster-child for the "pro-life" movement's support for judges who reject the child's God-given right to life (see video below)
- From 1973 to 2020 every Republican justice on the court has agreed with the Democrat Party's platform and the central holding of Roe that the baby is not a person and has no right to life.


Furthermore, these are statements made by the conservative Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, regarding the abortion issue:

1) "Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land."
2) "It’s settled as a precedent of the court, entitled to respect under principles of stare decisis."
3) "There’s nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent."

So much for the right wing evangelical pipe dream that Republican politicians will get Roe v. Wade overturned by stacking the courts with more conservative judges, because even the conservative judges are telling you that it isn't going to happen.
 

Lon

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Sorry to rain on your parade, Lon, but I figured you could use a dose of reality to counteract your illusions.
So laughing about the continued murder of millions, gotcha. 🆙
The fact of the matter is that it is the Republican Party that has given us legalized abortion, so there isn't any hope of the Republican Party ever making it illegal again. As Pastor Bob Enyart (the owner of this site) has so aptly observed:

* Abortion Nationally is from the Republican Supreme Court:
- Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote Roe v. Wade.
- The 1973 Roe 7-to-2 opinion was approved with a Republican majority of five votes.
- The 1992 landmark Casey opinion upheld "abortion rights" though 8 Republicans and a single pro-life Democrat (who dissented) comprised the court.
- In 2002 Casey author and Republican Justice Antonin Scalia said, "I will also strike down a law that is the opposite of Roe v. Wade."
- In 2008 on ABC's 60 Minutes Scalia said, "there are anti-abortion people who think that... the [constitution's] equal protection clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that's still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that's wrong."
- In 2012 Republican Chief Justice John Roberts voted to uphold the socialist, pro-abortion Obamacare.
- In 2017 Republican Gorsuch became the poster-child for the "pro-life" movement's support for judges who reject the child's God-given right to life (see video below)
- From 1973 to 2020 every Republican justice on the court has agreed with the Democrat Party's platform and the central holding of Roe that the baby is not a person and has no right to life.


Furthermore, these are statements made by the conservative Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, regarding the abortion issue:

1) "Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land."
2) "It’s settled as a precedent of the court, entitled to respect under principles of stare decisis."
3) "There’s nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent."

So much for the right wing evangelical pipe dream that Republican politicians will get Roe v. Wade overturned by stacking the courts with more conservative judges, because even the conservative judges are telling you that it isn't going to happen.
I don't care who ends abortion. It just needs to one day be ended. I'm praying for the day. Adoption is an option, a nonviolent one that doesn't destroy a life. Abstinence is another. Tying tubes is another. I'd love a law that demanded that any women having an abortion, must proceed to have her tubes tied, since she cannot control herself otherwise.

So, going back: Yeah, laughing about abortion doesn't score you any 'human' and 'humane' nor 'moral' points. You are a bit on the wicked side for it. I'll leave it between you and your Maker. You'll stand for it one day. Think and be a human first, emote later.
 

marke

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Sorry to rain on your parade, Lon, but I figured you could use a dose of reality to counteract your illusions. The fact of the matter is that it is the Republican Party that has given us legalized abortion, so there isn't any hope of the Republican Party ever making it illegal again. As Pastor Bob Enyart (the owner of this site) has so aptly observed:

* Abortion Nationally is from the Republican Supreme Court:
- Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote Roe v. Wade.
- The 1973 Roe 7-to-2 opinion was approved with a Republican majority of five votes.
- The 1992 landmark Casey opinion upheld "abortion rights" though 8 Republicans and a single pro-life Democrat (who dissented) comprised the court.
- In 2002 Casey author and Republican Justice Antonin Scalia said, "I will also strike down a law that is the opposite of Roe v. Wade."
- In 2008 on ABC's 60 Minutes Scalia said, "there are anti-abortion people who think that... the [constitution's] equal protection clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that's still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that's wrong."
- In 2012 Republican Chief Justice John Roberts voted to uphold the socialist, pro-abortion Obamacare.
- In 2017 Republican Gorsuch became the poster-child for the "pro-life" movement's support for judges who reject the child's God-given right to life (see video below)
- From 1973 to 2020 every Republican justice on the court has agreed with the Democrat Party's platform and the central holding of Roe that the baby is not a person and has no right to life.


Furthermore, these are statements made by the conservative Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, regarding the abortion issue:

1) "Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land."
2) "It’s settled as a precedent of the court, entitled to respect under principles of stare decisis."
3) "There’s nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent."

So much for the right wing evangelical pipe dream that Republican politicians will get Roe v. Wade overturned by stacking the courts with more conservative judges, because even the conservative judges are telling you that it isn't going to happen.
Any republican, democrat, or non-partisan wh supports murder by abortion is in league with the devil.
 

User Name

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So laughing about the continued murder of millions, gotcha. 🆙
No, you don't got me. I'm laughing at the naiveite of the thought that the Republicans, who gave us legal abortion, would ever outlaw it. This is the greatest political psyop that has ever been played on the American electorate, and it has worked soooo well!
I don't care who ends abortion.
You should care that it won't be Republicans who end it.
So, going back: Yeah, laughing about abortion doesn't score you any 'human' and 'humane' nor 'moral' points.
Again, NOT laughing at abortion, and Republicans have no 'human' and 'humane' nor 'moral' points whatsoever when it comes to this issue.

You are a bit on the wicked side for it. I'll leave it between you and your Maker. You'll stand for it one day. Think and be a human first, emote later.
Are the Republicans "a bit on the wicked side" when it comes to abortion? I'd like to see you say that about them, as you have said it about me. I've never done the first thing to make abortion legal, as the party you support has done.
 
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* Abortion Nationally is from the Republican Supreme Court:
- Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote Roe v. Wade.
- The 1973 Roe 7-to-2 opinion was approved with a Republican majority of five votes.
- The 1992 landmark Casey opinion upheld "abortion rights" though 8 Republicans and a single pro-life Democrat (who dissented) comprised the court.
- In 2002 Casey author and Republican Justice Antonin Scalia said, "I will also strike down a law that is the opposite of Roe v. Wade."
- In 2008 on ABC's 60 Minutes Scalia said, "there are anti-abortion people who think that... the [constitution's] equal protection clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that's still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that's wrong."
- In 2012 Republican Chief Justice John Roberts voted to uphold the socialist, pro-abortion Obamacare.
- In 2017 Republican Gorsuch became the poster-child for the "pro-life" movement's support for judges who reject the child's God-given right to life (see video below)
- From 1973 to 2020 every Republican justice on the court has agreed with the Democrat Party's platform and the central holding of Roe that the baby is not a person and has no right to life.
@Lon Here are a few other points I should have added to the list above, from Pastor Enyart:
  • Colorado's Republican Governor John Love signed the nation's first permissive abortion law in 1967.
  • The Republican Justices now on the Court (including Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts) oppose personhood.
  • All six Republican judges on the 11th circuit (nominated by Reagan, Bush Sr. & George W. Bush) voted to kill Terri Schiavo.
  • Republican "pro-life" heroine Priscilla Owen voted to abort "Baby 10" as a Texas Supreme Court judge.
  • Republican "pro-life" hero Samuel Alito sided with Planned Parenthood in repeated 3rd-circuit rulings, including ruling to keep partial birth abortion legal.
  • Republican George W. Bush refused to support South Dakota's total ban on abortion.
  • Hundreds of "pro-life" laws that regulate abortion that will actually keep abortion legal after Roe is overturned such as the Informed Consent laws.
You don't support me, Lon, because I reacted with a laughing icon to your OP in which you claimed that Republicans might actually overturn Roe, but do you still support the Republican Party now that you know they gave us Roe in the first place?
 

marke

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@Lon Here are a few other points I should have added to the list above, from Pastor Enyart:
  • Colorado's Republican Governor John Love signed the nation's first permissive abortion law in 1967.
  • The Republican Justices now on the Court (including Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts) oppose personhood.
  • All six Republican judges on the 11th circuit (nominated by Reagan, Bush Sr. & George W. Bush) voted to kill Terri Schiavo.
  • Republican "pro-life" heroine Priscilla Owen voted to abort "Baby 10" as a Texas Supreme Court judge.
  • Republican "pro-life" hero Samuel Alito sided with Planned Parenthood in repeated 3rd-circuit rulings, including ruling to keep partial birth abortion legal.
  • Republican George W. Bush refused to support South Dakota's total ban on abortion.
  • Hundreds of "pro-life" laws that regulate abortion that will actually keep abortion legal after Roe is overturned such as the Informed Consent laws.
You don't support me, Lon, because I reacted with a laughing icon to your OP in which you claimed that Republicans might actually overturn Roe, but do you still support the Republican Party now that you know they gave us Roe in the first place?
Republicans who support abortion are opposing God and have no credibility as a result.
 

ok doser

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@Lon Here are a few other points I should have added to the list above, from Pastor Enyart:
  • Colorado's Republican Governor John Love signed the nation's first permissive abortion law in 1967.
  • The Republican Justices now on the Court (including Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts) oppose personhood.
  • All six Republican judges on the 11th circuit (nominated by Reagan, Bush Sr. & George W. Bush) voted to kill Terri Schiavo.
  • Republican "pro-life" heroine Priscilla Owen voted to abort "Baby 10" as a Texas Supreme Court judge.
  • Republican "pro-life" hero Samuel Alito sided with Planned Parenthood in repeated 3rd-circuit rulings, including ruling to keep partial birth abortion legal.
  • Republican George W. Bush refused to support South Dakota's total ban on abortion.
  • Hundreds of "pro-life" laws that regulate abortion that will actually keep abortion legal after Roe is overturned such as the Informed Consent laws.
You don't support me, Lon, because I reacted with a laughing icon to your OP in which you claimed that Republicans might actually overturn Roe, but do you still support the Republican Party now that you know they gave us Roe in the first place?
If we took up a collection and gave you some money would you go away?

Asking for a friend
 

Lon

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No, you don't got me. I'm laughing at the naiveite of the thought that the Republicans, who gave us legal abortion, would ever outlaw it. This is the greatest political psyop that has ever been played on the American electorate, and it has worked soooo well!
The link wasn't to Republicans.
You should care that it won't be Republicans who end it.
No, I just want it ended.
Again, NOT laughing at abortion, and Republicans have no 'human' and 'humane' nor 'moral' points whatsoever when it comes to this issue.
Right, think more before you emote.
Are the Republicans "a bit on the wicked side" when it comes to abortion? I'd like to see you say that about them, as you have said it about me. I've never done the first thing to make abortion legal, as the party you support has done.
I remember when Regan signed it into law. It was his hope 1) that doctors who had taken an oath to save lives, would live up to that oath and 2) that it'd save the lives of those who were going to do it anyway. It was his one big bipartisan compromise and mistake. I hated the decision then and I hate it now. Was he wicked? Are judges wicked? In any sense that we don't own the flood gate that opened, we all need to pressure government to put the dam back in place that allowed this atrocity. Next time interact appropriately. You should never be found laughing at any abortion discussion, even for those who choose this, it is never a laughing matter and they carry guilt for the rest of their lives thanks to Planned Parenthood and abortion doctors without morals.
 

ok doser

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The link wasn't to Republicans.

No, I just want it ended.

Right, think more before you emote.

I remember when Regan signed it into law. It was his hope 1) that doctors who had taken an oath to save lives, would live up to that oath and 2) that it'd save the lives of those who were going to do it anyway. It was his one big bipartisan compromise and mistake. I hated the decision then and I hate it now. Was he wicked? Are judges wicked? In any sense that we don't own the flood gate that opened, we all need to pressure government to put the dam back in place that allowed this atrocity. Next time interact appropriately. You should never be found laughing at any abortion discussion, even for those who choose this, it is never a laughing matter and they carry guilt for the rest of their lives thanks to Planned Parenthood and abortion doctors without morals.
Scoring partisan points matters more to him than the murder of the innocent.
 
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