Does God Create Reprobates?

beloved57

beloved57

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Nanja said:
Pate's understanding is darkened because of the blindness of his heart.

He is not Born of God.

Eph. 4:18
Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God
through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart

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I concur with you!
 
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disturbo

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Nanja said:
Pate's understanding is darkened because of the blindness of his heart.

He is not Born of God.

Eph. 4:18
Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God
through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart

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Your understanding is darkened because you are judging him and you or B57 don't have that authority!

Romans 2:1. Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whoever thou art that judgest: for in that thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

Romans 14:12-13 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
 
beloved57

beloved57

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disturbo said:
Your understanding is darkened because you are judging him and you or B57 don't have that authority!

Romans 2:1. Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whoever thou art that judgest: for in that thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

Romans 14:12-13 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
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We suppose to Judge, and you Judging us,that is hypocritical!
 
ttruscott

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Robert Pate said:
Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field...

The seed is the Gospel. The sower is Jesus Christ.

The seed was randomly sown. No one that was special received the seed because the field was the world.
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Very nice rejection of Jesus Himself who in His explanation of this parable (all symbolism stripped away) said the seed is people, people of the kingdom and people of the evil one but people, not the gospel.

The parable of the sower, just before this parable of the good seed and the tares, says that the seed is the message but NOT IN THE PARABLE OF THE GOOD SEED AND THE TARES...Matt 13:38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil.

If this is a mistake, an oversight, then fine but never speak this way again. If it is your calculated opinion then you contradict Christ to suit your sectarian human wisdom. Just because you cannot think of an interpretation that suits you and does not support my contentions is NOT a good reason to go against Christ like this... the seeds in this parable are people.
 
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Robert Pate

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ttruscott said:
Very nice rejection of Jesus Himself who in His explanation of this parable (all symbolism stripped away) said the seed is people, people of the kingdom and people of the evil one but people, not the gospel.

The parable of the sower, just before this parable of the good seed and the tares, says that the seed is the message but NOT IN THE PARABLE OF THE GOOD SEED AND THE TARES...Matt 13:38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil.

If this is a mistake, an oversight, then fine but never speak this way again. If it is your calculated opinion then you contradict Christ to suit your sectarian human wisdom. Just because you cannot think of an interpretation that suits you and does not support my contentions is NOT a good reason to go against Christ like this... the seeds in this parable are people.
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In Mark 4:14-15, the seed is refered to as the "Word" which is the Gospel.

In Matthew 13:38 the seed is refered to as people.

You are determined to believe that God creates human souls for the purpose of sending them to hell.
 
beloved57

beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
In Mark 4:14-15, the seed is refered to as the "Word" which is the Gospel.

In Matthew 13:38 the seed is refered to as people.

You are determined to believe that God creates human souls for the purpose of sending them to hell.
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God did create some people for the purpose of eternal damnation in hell, they are called the vessels of wrath,the tares, the goats on the left hand!
 
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Seekingtruth21

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I agree. The verse right before Jeremiah 6:30 says that God never gives up on anyone even though a person might give up on Christ. My Bible says in Romans 1:28 that "they did not see fit to acknowledge God," this implies to me that they could've acted righteously and acknowledged God. Reprobates are only that way by choice. They choose to deny the power of God as it says in 2 Tim 3:5. This is a message many church folks probably don't think about, the messsage that God is still as active as he was in the days the Scripture was written. I would say that a lot of people in the church deny the power of God with their attitudes, with their lifestyles, and with their Bibles even. We get so sidetracked talking about things that don't matter. Who cares where such and such a town was back in the day? It doesn't have anything to do with Christian spirituality. I'm tempted to think that the false church in the last days is within the church.
 
Nanja

Nanja

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beloved57 said:
You reject the Gospel of God's Grace in Christ!
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Yes, he certainly does!

After reading his posts for over two years now, it's apparent
that the Gospel of God's Grace in Christ is hid from him.

2 Cor 4:3-4
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds
of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious
gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine
unto them.

It is God's Will that the devil has blinded him
to the Gospel of God's Grace in Christ!

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beloved57

beloved57

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Nanja said:
Yes, he certainly does!

After reading his posts for over two years now, it's apparent
that the Gospel of God's Grace in Christ is hid from him.

2 Cor 4:3-4
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds
of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious
gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine
unto them.

It is God's Will that the devil has blinded him
to the Gospel of God's Grace in Christ!

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It's hid to them that are lost!
 
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