None of what any of us (I, RD, et al) say is new information, special revelation, etc, and all of it can be obtained by anyone simply by reading the Bible.
That's it. Just read the Bible and take it at God's word.
Dispensationaism Proven.
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None of what any of us (I, RD, et al) say is new information, special revelation, etc, and all of it can be obtained by anyone simply by reading the Bible.
That's it. Just read the Bible and take it at God's word.
binyamin7
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That's not true, I have preached to thousands and thousands of people and I have never ever ran into anything like your belief except on this forum. You all bought the doctrine from some snake oil salesman who you look up to and esteem higher than you ought.
Only because those who read it aren't very careful in reading it.
I didn't know that, and yet, I understood instantly what the verse meant, even if you hadn't provided the WD definition.
Like I said, it's very easy to understand, if one applies their mind to it...
Clearly.
Uh....
You're serious, right?
You've heard of the ten commandments, right?
What's another word for "commandments"?
What are the first five books called (besides the "pentateuch")?
Stephen, speaking of Moses:
“This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, the one who received the living oracles to give to us,whom our fathers would not obey, but rejected. And in their hearts they turned back to Egypt, - Acts 7:38-39 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts7:38-39&version=NKJV
A "dispensation", if you will.
(And yes, I know that οικονομια isn't in that verse at all)
musterion
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What is it that you take issue with?
musterion
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That much, all mid-Acts dispensationalists would agree with 100%.
No idea what this means or who it's speaking of.
musterion
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That's the Jehovah's Witnesses, not mid-Acts dispensationalists.
binyamin7
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Yeah I am aware of that.
musterion
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Good. Now as to my other question, what is it about JR's doctrine you have a problem with? I really couldn't tell.
And what does "no one else ever knew about basic salvific principles" mean?
There's a reason why Dispensationalism only exists in churches that are not peer reviewed or part of any traditional communion; they're breeding grounds for heresy and ahistorical denominations.
The fact that they need a specific translation of the Bible to even begin revealing their notions should be a red flag right off the bat.
The fact that they need a specific translation of the Bible to even begin revealing their notions should be a red flag right off the bat.
I've always found it odd the amount of Madists on one site. Cant help but think maybe some of them actually weren't before coming here, or are just pretending to be so.
Just because it's so specific.
glorydaz
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I've always found it odd the amount of Madists on one site. Cant help but think maybe some of them actually weren't before coming here, or are just pretending to be so.
Just because it's so specific.
Since you can't tell the difference between the Gospels and Paul's letters, I'm not surprised you find it odd.
glorydaz
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Then take your stick pony and ride off into the sunset.
You're nothing but a :troll:
glorydaz
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glorydaz
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:rotfl:
Let's hear some of that "preaching", and we can compare it to what the Bible says.
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binyamin7
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I feel like you and I are bonding again. :turbo:
Jerry Shugart
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That commission was never carried out because according to the Scriptures the nation of Israel will be the agent of God when that gospel goes into the whole world:
"And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed" (Isa.61:8-9).
"Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee" (Isa.55:5).
When the gospel goes to all the nations Israel will be glorified by the LORD. The disciples of Christ understood that and that is when they were scattered they went to no one but the Jews with their message:
"Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only" (Acts 11:19).
The only reason they didn't preach that gospel to the Gentiles when they went to all of those places outside of Israel was because they knew the Scriptures which revealed that the Jews would only go to the Gentiles at a time when the nation of Israel had been glorified. And that is why it took a special revelation from Peter from God before he would go to a Gentile.
All you prove is the fact that you can somehow trick your mind into believing that the gospel promised by the OT prophets (Ro.1:1-2) is the same gospel which was kept secret since the world began (Ro.16:25).
When Paul preached he "reasoned out of the Scriptures" (Acts 17:2). In order to believe your idea we must throw reason to the wind.
I am not kidding. Anyone who has the slightest degree of spiritual discernment can tell the difference between a gospel promised in the OT and the gospel kept secret since the world began.
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