Did God become flesh?

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Dartman said:
You stopped just a bit too soon;

Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters
Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together unto one place
Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth put forth grass,
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven
Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures
Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind,
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image




Nope.
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We can't agree on everything.

God created everything through his Son, not talking about Jesus now, talking about the Miltha.

This is the Son he gave his fullness to.

Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
 
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JudgeRightly said:
You should have stopped there, heretic, instead of adding...



Which renders scripture "non-understandable" without your first existing, making scripture reliant on you for understanding.

Talk about arrogant...



"O" in Hebrews 1 is an interjection added to Scripture.

It's the old spelling of "Oh".

Other examples include "O Come All Ye Faithful" and "O Come O Come Emmanuel". There is no interjection in the Greek.



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Your funny JR
 
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Dartman said:
You stopped just a bit too soon;

Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters
Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together unto one place
Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth put forth grass,
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven
Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures
Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind,
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image




Nope.
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I just wanted to make a point and I did.
 
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Dartman said:
This isn't Scripture, it's an opinion. I don't agree with this opinion.
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It is not just people who have names. So the analysis avoids another obvious possibility of a name which is an event or object. Just as 666 was the number of dinari which the beast Herod gave everyone, the virgin birth was how with them, the God was.
 
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glorydaz said:
Cool, I love these games.



Genesis 7:7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.

Genesis 8:1 And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters assuaged;

Daniel 4:32 And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.

Galatians 4:18 But it is good to be zealously affected always in a good thing, and not only when I am present with you.
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Are you under the impression I didn't know this is ALSO a way .... not the only way, but A way .... "with" is used???

The issue here is, ALL Scripture must be in harmony.

When Jesus is given a name, Emmanuel, that means "God with us".... it is POSSIBLE "with" can mean in the presence of, and it is possible "with" can mean on your side, NOT against you.
We should look at the immediate context, to see if there is proof which meaning is intended.
ANY interpretation we consider, must ALSO agree with EVERY OTHER VERSE ON THE SUBJECT.
So, we KNOW Jesus stated repeatedly that God was in heaven during his ministry. AND he stated that they had NOT seen God.

So it is not possible that "God with us" actually means the multitudes were seeing God's face, and were hearing God's own voice. This rules out your interpretation of the phrase.

On the other hand, did Jesus birth in Bethlehem, and ministry, death and resurrection, demonstrate that Jehovah/YHVH God, his Father, is on our side... and is not against us?
Absolutely.

Therefore, by looking at the various definitions, and comparing those definitions with Scripture, we can clearly see, "with" doesn't mean geographic location ... it means on our side, NOT against us.

There, glad that's cleared up.
 
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Apple7 said:
Lexicons declare the definitions of the words at the time.

This is independent of your willful denial of the facts.
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So you admit to not knowing the grammar.? Theos and Lord could be either 2 or 1 depending on the active noun which follows it. Since both are in the nominative case, it has to by a verb. Since the phrase is not accusative, it is not completed by preceding verbs said by Thomas.
 
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SabathMoon said:
So you admit to not knowing the grammar.? Theos and Lord could be either 2 or 1 depending on the active noun which follows it. Since both are in the nominative case, it has to by a verb. Since the phrase is not accusative, it is not completed by preceding verbs said by Thomas.
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You are mixing up your replies.

We are talking about Immanuel.
 
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SabathMoon said:
The name is given to the event of the Christ's birth, not Jesus, who's real name is Jesus/Iyesous. And they shall call [the event] Immanuel which means With us, is God.
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It was not the birth of Christ. Christ means anointed, Jesus was not anointed till age thirty.
 
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keypurr said:
Its about the Miltha BR, the spirit Son, God's first creation, a godlike creature that was given the fullness of the Father, the spirit that came to Jesus as a dove.
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Nowhere is the Miltha explained to be a god-like creature. At least I see no notes in the Aramaic text. There is no direct translation for this word. You are really confused friend. Why don't you read your Aramaic text again. However, why not just try the Greek. That is the common alternative.
 
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keypurr said:
It was not the birth of Christ. Christ means anointed, Jesus was not anointed till age thirty.
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You know as well as I that Jesus was the Christ from his birth unless the Scriptures are in error.

Luke 2:10-11 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people; 11 for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is [a]Christ the Lord.

Either you ignore or tend to leave these things out.
 
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