Criminalization of Christianity in America

CherubRam

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If there is such a thing as freedom of religion, then how is it that Christians are being sued and imprisoned for their beliefs? How or who started this attack on Christians?
 

CherubRam

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Did the criminalization of Christianity begin with President Obama positioning Supreme Court Judges sympathetic to Gays?
 

Bradley D

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The secularization of the West has been going on for a long time. People have been squeezing God out of their lives for a long time. Refusing to see the sin in their lives and searching for salvation. The secular world is telling people they can do anything they want up to a point. They seemed to have reached that point and are on the red line of anarchy. The Bible tells Christians their lives will not be a cakewalk, they will be mocked, and suffer for their belief.
 

CherubRam

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The secularization of the West has been going on for a long time. People have been squeezing God out of their lives for a long time. Refusing to see the sin in their lives and searching for salvation. The secular world is telling people they can do anything they want up to a point. They seemed to have reached that point and are on the red line of anarchy. The Bible tells Christians their lives will not be a cakewalk, they will be mocked, and suffer for their belief.

Thanks for your reply. What do you think about President Obama appointing Supreme Court Judges sympathetic to Gays?
 

Bradley D

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The Bible clearly states that homosexual activity is a sin. Therefore, I could never approve of Pres. Obama's appointees. We will all face judgment one day. "In God I Trust."
 

annabenedetti

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Is Obama responsible for this attack upon Christians?


A comment* I read this morning from an email petitioning for Kim Davis (Free Kim Davis! 10,165 signatures, $9,306,458 raised):
"You just don't get it and have this all backwords [sic]: Kim Davis is the only person here obeying the LAW! The Judge, the Media, the Legislators of Kentucky, the Governor and the Supreme Court are the Law breakers. As Mike Huckabee pointed out and Ted Cruz elaborated: What LAW did she Violate, Name the Statute??? This is a clear case of Judicial Tyranny and Christians are slamming each other, rushing to pull themselves out of all Public discourse! Do you think this will satisfy the Progressives? No they will see the weakness and Blood will flow from every river and stream in america with Christian Blood!! Come Lord Jesus Quickly for your church is ill equiped to face the Enemies of GOD!!!!"

This is the hysteria that results from apocalyptic fear-mongering.



*All spelling and punctuation is faithful to the original. (Interesting that with all the energetic capitalization going on that America was left out in the cold.)
 

Ktoyou

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The secularization of the West has been going on for a long time. People have been squeezing God out of their lives for a long time. Refusing to see the sin in their lives and searching for salvation. The secular world is telling people they can do anything they want up to a point. They seemed to have reached that point and are on the red line of anarchy. The Bible tells Christians their lives will not be a cakewalk, they will be mocked, and suffer for their belief.

This is true, and yet not by God;s will, but by man's own sin, and sin it is to not honor God.

The secular would is giving to weirdos certain freedoms in exchange for far greater freedom. There is no anarchy, as this is delusion, rather there is near mind control! When was the last time this society has refereed to adult males as men? huh, when?

You may not see how important this is, and they who want to under control are hoping you see this is 'just a social change'. yet it isn't.

They have marginalized you as a person, and have done this to most people living here and in most of Europe.

They take away your natural rights, make you an equal, which is equally a slave. Then they fill you with consumer goods and tell you how guilty you should feel having so much more than the rest of the world, and you buy it!
 

Tambora

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Interesting that bible study is encouraged in prisons, but not schools.
 

flintstoned

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If there is such a thing as freedom of religion, then how is it that Christians are being sued and imprisoned for their beliefs? How or who started this attack on Christians?

There is freedom of religion, so long as you don't break the law. We are not a theocracy! You are free to practice whatever coo-coo beliefs you hold, so long as you don't break the law or infringe on the rights of other people.

The bible says nothing about gay marriage. There are many types of marriage that God would probably not approve of, but He did not specifically address gay marriage or say anything about how we should treat gay people other than "loving your neighbor." One type of marriage that was specifically mentioned in the bible as being prohibited by God (which was reiterated by Jesus) is REmarriage. In most cases, if a person gets divorced and then later remarries another, they are thereby committing adultery in the eyes of God. I wonder how closely Kay Davis checked the heterosexual couples she signed licenses for, to ensure that she wasn't assisting in the committing of adultery.

In any case, the marriage license is a government document. You can have a wedding before God in a church (and be married in God's eyes), but forgo the government license if you don't want to partake of the civil benefits extended to the citizens of this country. You cannot; however, prevent another married couple from legally obtaining these same governmental/legal rights in the form of a license.

Kay Davis is hypocritical and is picking and choosing things in the bible in a failed attempt to justify her discrimination.

1 Peter Chapter 2
13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16 As free, and not using [your] liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
17 Honour all [men]. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
 

CherubRam

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There is freedom of religion, so long as you don't break the law. We are not a theocracy! You are free to practice whatever coo-coo beliefs you hold, so long as you don't break the law or infringe on the rights of other people.

The bible says nothing about gay marriage. There are many types of marriage that God would probably not approve of, but He did not specifically address gay marriage or say anything about how we should treat gay people other than "loving your neighbor." One type of marriage that was specifically mentioned in the bible as being prohibited by God (which was reiterated by Jesus) is REmarriage. In most cases, if a person gets divorced and then later remarries another, they are thereby committing adultery in the eyes of God. I wonder how closely Kay Davis checked the heterosexual couples she signed licenses for, to ensure that she wasn't assisting in the committing of adultery.

In any case, the marriage license is a government document. You can have a wedding before God in a church (and be married in God's eyes), but forgo the government license if you don't want to partake of the civil benefits extended to the citizens of this country. You cannot; however, prevent another married couple from legally obtaining these same governmental/legal rights in the form of a license.

Kay Davis is hypocritical and is picking and choosing things in the bible in a failed attempt to justify her discrimination.

1 Peter Chapter 2
13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16 As free, and not using [your] liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
17 Honour all [men]. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

The bible says that we are to kill homosexuals. I think it is very gracious of Christians to be passive about it.
 

flintstoned

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The bible says that we are to kill homosexuals. I think it is very gracious of Christians to be passive about it.

So you, as a Christian, live by the old covenant? I don't recall Jesus saying anything about killing homosexuals or saying that homosexuals cannot be married by the government.
 

CherubRam

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Quote: The bible says that we are to kill homosexuals. I think it is very gracious of Christians to be passive about it.

So you, as a Christian, live by the old covenant? I don't recall Jesus saying anything about killing homosexuals or saying that homosexuals cannot be married by the government.

Yahshua said, if we want to have life immortal, we need to keep the Fathers commands.

Matthew 19:17
“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
 

meshak

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CherubRam,

You are talking about politics.

Jesus' followers are not of the world. Politics are of the world.

think about it brother.
 

CherubRam

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CherubRam,

You are talking about politics.

Jesus' followers are not of the world. Politics are of the world.

think about it brother.

Job 38:33
Do you know the laws of the heavens? Can you set up God’s (kingdom / dominion) over the earth?

"Not of (this / the) world" means (not worldly.)

Politics is the activities associated with the governance of ALSO GOD'S KINGDOM HERE ON EARTH.
 

CherubRam

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No it does not.

Who do you think you are?

LA

God said:
Leviticus 20:13
“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
 
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