Did I not admit to that Alwight?
Didn't expect you to Alwight. Just made my own observation. I may look for something to see how accurate Wiki actually is on stuff it publishes?
Why bother checking anything Stan when you can simply presuppose an answer and deem it to be true?
lain:
How so? There were some very knowledgeable people on there who were kinda lost. The point was to show how much faith those people actually use that THEY themselves cannot support, yet we as Christians are always asked to support our faith with so-called facts. I wonder how you would have done had you been approached in this video?
The point is people like you and I have our minds set on what we believe, but MANY, as is indicated in this video, don't really know why they believe how they do yet evolutionary apologetics will use stats that say MOST educated people believe in Evolution. They sure didn't look very educated, if to me. :crackup:
I suspect that if someone pointed a camera at me and put a microphone under my nose unexpectedly in the street that I wouldn't do too well. The guy behind the camera will no doubt have selectively edited his piece anyway had anyone told him where to get off or indeed managed to more successfully argue that their belief in Darwinian evolution is a naturalistic conclusion more than sufficiently supported by empirical evidence and reason.
However if you have already presupposed that Darwinian evolution must be wrong whatever the science and evidence may suggest then clearly there is no rational thinking debate going on anyway.
I don't know because I am NOT of that opinion. I'm NOT God and I do NOT purport to even be anywhere near understanding Him other than what His Written Word tells me. I can tell you that as He did create a man and woman that would have been considered in their late teens but were only a few minutes old, and a universe that was a day old but obviously appeared much older, I'll leave the details as to HOW He did it to Him. Man's attempt in trying to understand through his own very limited abilities, is just plain arrogance.
It was once arrogance to think that that the universe did not revolve around the Earth. If people simply presupposed what they believe and never looked for answers in evidence then we'd all still be stuck in rather less enlightened times imo. You are a relic Stan, if everyone thought as you do then we'd still be in the middle ages waiting for the next black death to arrive.
Yes Alwight, charged and accepted, and I've dealt with the scriptural issue as well.
I think you shouldn't be afraid to use the brain that God perhaps gave you to explore real world evidence beyond presupposition.
lain:
According to who's rational? I have doubted many thing in my life, but God has proved Himself always regardless of how unfaithful I have been. Can you say the same about your faith in this science?
Science is simply a methodology to help with understanding evidence, it isn't a faith.
I think quoting Glenn Morton here is very disingenuous, given he became apostate and fell off ALL his beliefs. If his own cognitive dissonance got the better of him so be it. I'm not to worried about one so-called believer that turned out NOT to be. So called Empirical rationalists are also surprised at how bad his flip flop was or is. In any event do the right thing for the wrong reasons is always wrong for the person doing it, not for the cause he is committed to. Many false Christians have used God's word to preach, but look at what God says in Is 55:11 (NIV)
My understanding is that Morton remains a Christian, just not a YEC one.
