I've noticed that many normal rational people get extremely upset about two things: Flat earth and the King James Bible.
Two of Satan's greatest lies: (1) Changing God's creation and (2) Changing the Word of God
From my friend and partner - used with permission - Some of this post are my own words -
PJ : I've never gotten so much emotion and "outrage" from any other subject than flat earth. It's such a logical conclusion based on evidence, observation, "science" and most of all :
Scripture - King James Bible only for me sir (
except Amos 9: NASB - ) Hah !!! The earth, sun, moon, seas, rivers, oceans, stars and other heavenly bodies AND creation and end times descriptions are perfectly accurate as God intended. [MENTION=7053]SaulToPaul[/MENTION] -
This first paragraph is to you, my reply to your post -
Friend :
One of the more recent indirect proofs I thought of was regarding cameras.
Everything... Literally everything from cars, to phones to computers has cameras. Little cameras, cheap cameras, sometimes expensive cameras. Camera technology has gotten exponentially lighter, smaller and cheaper over the past 4+ decades everywhere, except 'space'. Out there only 'data' cameras work, cameras that aren't, exactly.....
Cameras. Lack of cameras is clear as day support of fraud, public consciousness is conditioned to think a mechanical device (camera, nothing different than the one in your phone) can't be EASILY added to ANY fantasy space vehicle, or literally left running, looking out the ... cough... IS(I)S... cough... window. and little "scientific value" can be attained from THAT kind of data. This is absurd.
Think about how small and high quality our camera phones are (as one of many mini camera examples) then question why it's entirely excluded from the outer space fairy tale. Our real cameras, lifted high enough, unaltered, sans wide angle (fisheye) would (and currently do, to some extent) reveal God's A-M-A-Z-I-N-G flat Earth.
One of the more recent indirect proofs I thought of was regarding cameras.
Everything... Literally everything from cars, to phones to computers has cameras. Little cameras, cheap cameras, sometimes expensive cameras. Camera technology has gotten exponentially lighter, smaller and cheaper over the past 4+ decades everywhere, except 'space'. Out there only 'data' cameras work, cameras that aren't, exactly.....
Cameras. Lack of cameras is clear as day support of fraud, public consciousness is conditioned to think a mechanical device (camera, nothing different than the one in your phone) can't be EASILY added to ANY fantasy space vehicle, or literally left running, looking out the ... cough... IS(I)S... cough... window. and little "scientific value" can be attained from THAT kind of data. This is absurd.
Think about how small and high quality our camera phones are (as one of many mini camera examples) then question why it's entirely excluded from the outer space fairy tale. Our real cameras, lifted high enough, unaltered, sans wide angle (fisheye) would (and currently do, to some extent) reveal God's A-M-A-Z-I-N-G flat Earth.
Another interesting logical contradiction.... the Coriolis Effect.
The effect is essentially defined: in a reference frame with clockwise rotation, the force acts to the left of the motion of the object. In one with anticlockwise (or counterclockwise) rotation, the force acts to the right. Deflection of an object due to the Coriolis force is called the Coriolis effect.
This is what causes tornadoes (allegedly). Makes perfect sense so far, a force acting independently and opposite the current motion of the object.
In our example, a portion of the atmosphere, acting independently of the rest of the atmosphere will create a tornado. But think about this effect and it's definition for a minute as it relates to flat Earth Truth and how specifically we use machinery to interact with this world.
"If the Earth is rotating, why can't we fly straight up in a plane and let the Earth rotate below us?" Well because EVERYONE knows the atmosphere (somehow, insert gravity fantasy) rotates with Earth.
Except when it doesn't. You can't have your cake and eat it too. So the atmosphere ALWAYS moves with the Earth, and we are mocked for not assuming so, except for when the Coriolis Effect is cited lol, that's just great.
The atmosphere spinning with the Earth (I'm getting dizzy with all this unobservable spinning lol) explanation is always used to also indirectly prove why we don't throw a ball in the air and we and Earth spin right under it. Then to make sure you REALLY understand this concept, the idea of relative (there's that word again) motion is introduced. What follows is almost always the example of jumping in a plane but still moving with the plane.
Fine with me, but one fatal flaw in that example..... The plane is a closed system. Remember, to believe space as currently presented on our 'screens,' you MUST believe open system and change your thought experiment to jumping up on the roof of the plane (big difference). To believe open system you MUST believe Coriolis Effect is independent of that open system but airplanes are not and you are left with one big contradiction and one bigger flat Earth Truth.
Here's the birds eye view of calculating the Moon distance deception.
After crunching the values you are left with one number, let's say for argument's sake that number is 27,000 (I made this up for argument's sake). Now the last step of the formula is to divide 27000 by a factor. We all know divide means to break the whole into smaller pieces. But there's a catch, if you divide any number into ANY value that's between 0-1 you actually have an answer that is GREATER than original.
For example:
8 pieces divided by 4=2 pieces.
But
8 pieces divided by 0.25=32 pieces.
This is one justification of just how sly and cunning this deception truly is. So if trig value for moon distance is 27000, you would divide by a number>1 and reach an answer<27000, in reality, like I alluded to, about 3000 miles. Ahhh but since we MUST account for curve we inject a variable that reduces our divisor to, surprise, a value in between 0-1 effectively increasing the total to>27000 or in this case the alleged 230 thousand miles or so of pure fantasy that is currently alleged as the distance today.
The videographed proof of this rests on YouTube and was presented by user Jeranism and friends. Here's the catch, I firmly believe Jeranism is cointelpro, BUT to remain credible, even the opposition must filter in truth from time to time. Not only is this a time but they placed video shots of the spreadsheet with the formulas on the screen and provided a detailed breakdown of every step of the calculation. So if you'd rather not wait for me to recreate, there's your source.
PJ :
NOBODY has done a true circumnavigation around the ball (earth) - Prove it. It's on you to prove it. From the starting point to starting point going one way. The examples you'll find are NOT true circumnavigations.
You will find a plane in 77 or 79 that allegedly did it but there is only a half hour of video footage. Unacceptable. Then you will find a Guinness Word Record from 77 or 79 that wasn't published until 2015. Really? that was a boat. You've about Captain Cook and Captain Ross right, NDG? They each traveled 60,000 miles "around" the fake continent of Antarctica. That means they both had go around an entire fake continent 6 TIMES each without realizing. Really? They don't call it the Antarctic CIRCLE for nothing.
Partner :
To begin, cosmology does not meet the definition of science, intentionally. Observations are no longer direct, immediately invalidating the scientific method and thus the 'science' supporting ANY cosmological claim. Rather observations are ALWAYS relative (you can thank Einstein for letting relativity destroy direct observation in any 'science' that can get away with it) today. PS-you can replace cosmology with any of the space sciences since the initial premise is based on a relative inference vs a direct observation. In other words friend you are simply parroting second hand, unverified lies whenever the proverbial "you" attempts to support ANY "space science".
Furthermore, as someone MUCH more intelligent than me asked;
'evolution' ?? What's that...? Define evolution...?
a. Post the Scientific Theory of evolution...?
b. Post just TWO Formal Scientific Hypotheses then Experiments that concretized it into a *REAL* Scientific Theory...?
c. Post the Null Hypotheses that were Rejected/Falsified for each...?
d. Highlight The Independent Variables used in Each TEST...?
These questions ^^^^^^^^ can not/will not EVER be answered folks because "evolution" DOESN'T and NEVER EXISTED.
It's a Joke!! In fact, that's insulting to Actual Jokes...at least Jokes have some substance.
Finally, your space x launch and a beer. Sorry I'm pushing my way in here but, for the rocket to really go to 'outer space' the Earth would have to be an open system, which you currently believe because the entire body of your current belief system needs this fact for the rest to be true. BUT, we have a true scientific problem if we do easily accept this 'fact' of the open system (unfettered access to 'space'). See, you can't have air pressure, at all, in any way, in an open system. Pressure is formally defined in relation to it's container. That leaves us with one conclusion, as usual let God be true and every man a liar.
Now you COULD reply and say the magic of "gravity" is what keeps air pressure in an open system and i would have to reply with a few inspired questions:
1.Why do helium balloons ignore 'gravity'?
2.Why does a rock sink but a tennis ball float if you throw them in a pool together?
See, "gravity" is neither supported via the scientific method nor common sense, rather it and ALL of what you parrot as science is actually faith. Scientism is the current term, but truthfully it should be spelled PSY-IENTISM because it's an attack on your mind and a contradiction of all direct observational evidence... Oh yeah and every word of the Holy Spirit inspired Truth (see Genesis, Job, Isaiah et Al.) , written for us and given to us, even though we don't deserve one bit of His Salvation.
Take care friend, you seem kind. I hope my instinct isn't wrong and please don't view the above as some attempt to convince you of anything. Like all of us, if you are a sincere hearted seeker of truth, God willing, you too will know the truth and no longer have to 'believe' or 'have faith' in any man's claims.
People don't realize it takes a discerning mind to sift through the YouTube waters and discover truth. You have done all the leg work and it's greatly appreciated by anyone that understands and values truth.
You say you don't want to discuss the math and I totally relate to that but I thought I could add to this comprehensive truth reveal by enlightening a little on the (satanically inspired) math of globular Earth. Of course the most simple refutation of the globe via math is our tried and true curvature formula.....
8 inches per mile squared. Unfortunately, in our reality, there is no such thing. It has been empirically demonstrated time after time, via a large swath of amateurs that where the curve "should be", it isn't.
Now to the math.....
8 inches per mile squared means as you add each mile to the formula, the curve gets steeper because it's allegedly a ball. So
1 mile=8 inches*(1 mile^2)=8 inch "downward sloping curve" 1 mile out, or let's say we want to express that value in feet. 8 inches/12 inches (one foot)=0
.666 feet
10 miles=8 inches*(10^2)=800 inches or
66.6 feet
100 miles=8 inches*(100^2)=80,000 inches or
6,666 feet
But true videographed evidence, our language (horizon), and water (ALWAYS level) all truthfully deny "the curve" that is only supported via (satanic) mathematics.
Fun math related fact readers. I learned that the distance to the Moon, currently alleged to be about 230,000 miles away requires a special "curvature variable" in the trig formula to conclude this ridiculous value. When you apply the directly observed values to the trigonometry formula, surprise the Moon is about 3,000 miles away. I can revisit my source and lay the formula out here if requested, but it could take some time.
Now to Eratosthenes. His stick experiment "works" because you must assume large and far away sun. If you assume local smaller (think 3,000 miles away, same as moon, as also depicted by the Masons) sun and flat Earth, his experiment yields the same results.
I'm not good at posting videos but if anyone wanted a quick, honest and frankly awakening introduction to this truth, may I recommend a
16 minute 25 minute video by
YouTube user "scrawny2brawny". If you want a more intellectual discussion and proof set, review the television interviews with British intellectual
David Murphy. YouTube has a 53 minute interview with him on a British tv show that is fantastic.
God bless everyone and thank you again Patrick for all you are doing to express God's truth to a deceived world.