Christians worship Christ; JW's do not!

keypurr · Apr 23, 2018

Apple7 said:
If you want to use Aramaic, then LEARN Aramaic...

ܘܝܕܥܝܢܢ ܕܒܪܗ ܕܐܠܗܐ ܐܬܐ ܘܝܗܒ ܠܢ ܡܕܥܐ ܕܢܕܥ ܠܫܪܝܪܐ ܘܢܗܘܐ ܒܗ ܒܫܪܝܪܐ ܒܒܪܗ ܝܫܘܥ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܗܢܐ ܗܘ ܐܠܗܐ ܫܪܝܪܐ ܘܚܝܐ ܕܠܥܠܡ

And we know that The Son of God has come and he has given us a mind to know The True One and to be in The True One -- in his Son, Yeshua The Messiah.

Don't have to Apple7, folks have done it for me.

keypurr · Apr 23, 2018

glorydaz said:
Don't be condescending, Keypurr. It tells us more than you'd like us to know.

People have wasted a great deal of time and energy trying to introduce you to our great God and Saviour, but you besmirch and belittle Him at every turn.

You worship to many Gods.
You can not twist his words to satisfy your traditions.

Apple7 · Apr 23, 2018

keypurr said:
Your right, wrong verse, I was getting a verse Apple7 mentioned earlier.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

How does this prove Jesus is God?

First Yochanan 5:20
And we know that the Son of Elohim has come and has given us knowledge that we might know the t\True One; and that we might be in the True One, Iin his Son Y'shua the Mashiyach,

Aramaic English NT (AENT)

I am not going to type out the notes that come with this verse.

The verse, and the notes, plainly state that Jesus is the TRUE GOD!

Give it up, pops...

glorydaz · Apr 23, 2018

keypurr said:
Nope it doesn't,

Yochanan 17:3

Now this is life that is eternal, that they might know You, that You are the Elohim of Truth, and he alone whome You have sent, the Msahiyach Y'shua.

From the Aramaic English NT, (AENT)

Are there two Gods here, Keypurr?

Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

Bright Raven · Apr 23, 2018

Apple7 said:
The Aramaic says the same EXACT thing, pops...

And we know that The Son of God has come and he has given us a mind to know The True One and to be in The True One -- in his Son, Yeshua The Messiah. This One is The True God and The Life Eternal.

Where did you find this quote?

keypurr · Apr 23, 2018

glorydaz said:
Are there two Gods here, Keypurr?

Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

Nope. My bed time has arrived, it was a pleasure sharing with you all tonight. I will return more often so brush up on your theology. Good night and God bless.

Apple7 · Apr 23, 2018

keypurr said:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The God of this world is Jesus Christ.

Apple7 · Apr 23, 2018

keypurr said:
Nope. My bed time has arrived, it was a pleasure sharing with you all tonight. I will return more often so brush up on your theology. Good night and God bless.

Be sure to check your bed pan, pops...

Apple7 · Apr 23, 2018

Bright Raven said:
Where did you find this quote?

This is from the Aramaic Bible in plain English.

Grosnick Marowbe · Apr 23, 2018

Sherman said:
It's a debate tactic by Popsthebuilder called obfuscation, to darken and make confusing, and thereby change the meaning of what JudgeRightly said.

He's really quite sneaky, then.

marhig · Apr 23, 2018

glorydaz said:
It's in the Bible that there is ONE GOD.

Unfortunately for you, you don't know that ONE God is Father, Son, and Spirit.

You don't know that ONE GOD is triune in nature.

Thus when you deny the Son is God, you're denying the ONE GOD.

There's a difference in having the same nature, to them all being the Almighty God!

The Bible clearly show that the father is the God of Jesus Christ and that Christ is under subjection and God is his head.

God has made Christ Jesus Lord, he had set Christ Jesus at his right hand, he has exalted him and given him a name above every name, he has given him authority and he made his enemies his footstool by giving him power over all flesh. God is the head of Christ, Jesus said that the father is greater than he and the he could do nothing without the father and that he was sent by him, he does as the father has commanded him to do, and he speaks only what he's given to speak by the father. He also said that the father is the only true God and that the father is his God, the apostles also say that the father is the God of Jesus Christ too.

Now why shouldn't I believe all this? This clearly shows that the father is the God of Jesus Christ! And that they are not equal!

marhig · Apr 23, 2018

Apple7 said:
You just made things a whole lot worse for your worldview.

Now, you continued to prove That God has a God has a God!

And you can't seem to see that God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ as seen here!

Acts 2

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that GOD HATH MADE that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both LORD AND CHRIST

And no Christ is not a God of the father. It doesn't say that anywhere in the scriptures. No matter how you try to make it so!

Tambora · Apr 23, 2018

glorydaz said:
So many claim to worship God and they don't even know Him. That is horrible.

Keypurr makes up the most bizarre stuff.

Apple7 · Apr 23, 2018

marhig said:
And you can't seem to see that God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ as seen here!

Acts 2

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that GOD HATH MADE that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both LORD AND CHRIST

And no Christ is not a God of the father. It doesn't say that anywhere in the scriptures. No matter how you try to make it so!

Acts 2 quotes Psalm 110.

This is fact.

The term used in Psalm 110 for The Son, is 'Adonay', of which, has the same meaning as Yahweh in this passage.

Thus....once again...please step-up your study of scripture.

You stopped studying scripture in English long ago...and you have yet to even begin studying scripture in its original languages.

Tambora · Apr 23, 2018

Bright Raven said:
Where did you find this quote?

Can be found here, a listing of bible translations.
http://biblehub.com/1_john/5-20.htm

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
1 John 5
20 And we know that The Son of God has come and he has given us a mind to know The True One and to be in The True One- in his Son, Yeshua The Messiah. This One is The True God and The Life Eternal.

Bright Raven · Apr 23, 2018

Tambora said:
Can be found here, a listing of bible translations.
http://biblehub.com/1_john/5-20.htm

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
1 John 5
20 And we know that The Son of God has come and he has given us a mind to know The True One and to be in The True One- in his Son, Yeshua The Messiah. This One is The True God and The Life Eternal.

Sort of comical seeing the amount of credence that Keypurr gives to the Aramaic Bible.

Tambora · Apr 23, 2018

Bright Raven said:
Sort of comical seeing the amount of credence that Keypurr gives to the Aramaic Bible.

It was Apple that quoted it, not keyurr.

JudgeRightly · Apr 23, 2018

Tambora said:
It was Apple that quoted it, not keyurr.

Keypurr thinks the original NT was written in Aramaic, and then translated to Greek. I think that's what RD is referring to.

Tambora · Apr 23, 2018

JudgeRightly said:
Keypurr thinks the original NT was written in Aramaic, and then translated to Greek. I think that's what RD is referring to.

Thanks.

Bright Raven · Apr 23, 2018

Tambora said:
It was Apple that quoted it, not keyurr.

Yes, I know. Keypurr has not said a thing.

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