Capitol Police Warn Of Threat On March 4th

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Claiming the left has politicized it more than anything else after you touted that wildly inaccurate chart is more than a little ironic.

Homosexuality has been a leftist talking point for the past 50 years. They have advocated for it the most.

Um, your latter is just....bizarre. I've lived in a democracy for years and haven't been sucked down into the earth or anywhere else.

Then you need to reread the latter part, because you misread what I said.
 

Arthur Brain

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Which fellow man are we being compassionate toward? All, or just some? Is it compassionate to take money from one man and give it to another against the first's will? Remember that you were the one that said "regardless of employment or financial status". If compassion is really regardless of financial status, then you can't take from the rich to give to the poor, any more than you can take from the poor and give to the rich.

Or are you admitting that your standard only works in one direction? In which case, you will be admitting that you are a respecter of persons, and therefore your version of morality is not the same as God's.
Equating universal health care and welfare systems with stealing from people is a misnomer from the start. From a moral perspective, there has to be provision for everybody, unless you'd rather anyone who is unable to work should have no food? Furthermore, it's a system - over here at least that you can avail yourself of should you ever find yourself in a position of unemployment or even permanently rendered incapable of work. How is that theft?
 

Arthur Brain

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Homosexuality has been a leftist talking point for the past 50 years. They have advocated for it the most.



Then you need to reread the latter part, because you misread what I said.
Well, that's entirely laughable, given the fixation that the far religious right have on the topic. There used to be a plethora of 'homosexual' threads on here when I first joined in 2006 and it was insane. There's still loads through the last few years on here now if you scroll through the archives. That's before even mentioning aCW's ten year train wreck. It's hardly a talking point for most on the left, but in the snapshot of here, a reaction to such.

Oh, I didn't think you were being literal but it's still utterly bizarre.
 

Arthur Brain

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In the US, under democrat healthcare/tax legislation, the young and healthy are forced to help pay the exorbitant care costs of the old, the disabled, and the sick.
Would you sooner the elderly, disabled and sick simply shuffled off their mortal coil instead of receiving care? If you were to find yourself in such a position then you'd be entitled to the care that you seemingly begrudge others.
 

Arthur Brain

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Lying leftists brand patriotic Americans who don't blindly buy into the lying leftist propagandist crap as "traitors," "seditionists." "fools," "racists," and "deplorables."
What "leftist propaganda" would that be exactly? How do you define a "patriotic American" also? Otherwise, it would all depend on people and their actions. For example, the far right mob that invaded the capitol in January weren't patriots but simply violent thugs.
 

marke

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You've used 'Leftist' enough.
Since you have trouble in perceiving what a Rightist is, I'll do a deal with you.
If you will define Leftist, I'll define Rightist.
What a good game.
😁
A leftist is, generally speaking, someone who is not right with God - on politics, on religion, on science, etc.*
 

Arthur Brain

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It's March 11 and Arthur is still holding to this delusion.
There's no delusion about it. The footage is there for all to see and if you deny it then you're the one who has a problem with reality. You might not like it but your discomfort with the events in January and who was behind them won't make the facts disappear.
 

marke

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Some are but then, to claim as you do here, hardly shows much intelligence on your own part. Supply a credible link that shows the posit that church going Christians make up as you say. I'm aware that the FBI have touted far right extremism as a considerable internal threat but that isn't the same thing at all.

You only have to go back to the riots on January 6th to see just why that is. Such actions resulted in five deaths and had it not been for the bravery of a police officer who led the mob away from the room where the likes of Pence were in then that outcome would have been considerably worse.
I clearly saw good people trying to stop the violent from doing violence at the Capitol. That is not something generally seen in out-of-control black and anti-fa riots where police officers are assaulted and businesses are looted and burned. Where is the evidence in comparison between the two types of protest groups that Christians or 'right-wingers', or 'Trump-supporters' are more violent than the black and leftist- gangs who have done so much damage to so many cities over so many months?
 

eider

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They'd probably be some of the best roads in the world.

What about it?

Again, the government does not have the right to force people to become tax collectors. Ergo, the only way to collect taxes is for the citizens themselves to remit them.

They'll be right where they always were, in service.

You seem to think that the incomes of the citizens would be the same or worse than they are today.

Why?

Why? Please provide your reasoning.

Please specify what you're referring to by "permanent power."

Meaning?
You may have heard of the maxim that power corrupts and absolute power .....? Yes?

Personally I don't like the idea of a military police type power too much, far too authoritarian, little freedom of thought and any outsiders classed as evil. You do think that democrat supporters are evil, don't you?

And the selection of old testament laws seems rather odd to me. It's just a person opinion, of course.
 

marke

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Would you sooner the elderly, disabled and sick simply shuffled off their mortal coil instead of receiving care? If you were to find yourself in such a position then you'd be entitled to the care that you seemingly begrudge others.
I don't want the government unfairly taxing young people to pay for the healthcare costs of lazy people, of the elderly, of the unemployed, of the unemployable, of the illegal alien, of the chronically ill, of the disabled democrat government dependent, and so many others just because leftist socialist politicians see an opportunity to bring in billions from them while paying back out very little because of their youth and health. Pelosi cackled with glee when the democrats passed Obamacare without a single republican vote, likely elated at the prospect of raking in hundreds of billions of new tax dollars from the young and healthy while democrat politicians exempted their own selves from the massive health-tax plan.
 

marke

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What "leftist propaganda" would that be exactly? How do you define a "patriotic American" also? Otherwise, it would all depend on people and their actions. For example, the far right mob that invaded the capitol in January weren't patriots but simply violent thugs.
A patriotic America does not curse America and call it evil while trying to destroy Constitutional freedoms and capitalism.
 

Hilltrot

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There's no delusion about it. The footage is there for all to see and if you deny it then you're the one who has a problem with reality. You might not like it but your discomfort with the events in January and who was behind them won't make the facts disappear.
Footage of what? No one there on March 4? Yep, every sane person agrees there was no massive conspiracy for March 4 - except for you and your Blue Anon pals.
 

Arthur Brain

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I clearly saw good people trying to stop the violent from doing violence at the Capitol. That is not something generally seen in out-of-control black and anti-fa riots where police officers are assaulted and businesses are looted and burned. Where is the evidence in comparison between the two types of protest groups that Christians or 'right-wingers', or 'Trump-supporters' are more violent than the black and leftist- gangs who have done so much damage to so many cities over so many months?
Yes, there were good people trying to stop the violence and potential bloodshed, in particular one officer Eugene Goodman. That doesn't negate the fact that it was perpetuated by a far right mob as evidenced through the plethora of footage. Are there violent wingnuts on the left? Sure, it's not as simplistic as being a one way street but there's 'good' reason why the FBI consider the far right to be one of the biggest internal threats to America. January 6 showed that all too well.
 

Arthur Brain

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Footage of what? No one there on March 4? Yep, every sane person agrees there was no massive conspiracy for March 4 - except for you and your Blue Anon pals.
Given the highly stepped up security protocols put in place it was unlikely that anything actually was going to happen on March 4th. Sensible precautions however after January 6th.
 

Arthur Brain

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A patriotic America does not curse America and call it evil while trying to destroy Constitutional freedoms and capitalism.
Where's the "leftist propaganda" that you referred to earlier? Otherwise, there's plenty on the left and right who may love America but aren't oblivious to faults within the country.
 

Arthur Brain

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A leftist is, generally speaking, someone who is not right with God - on politics, on religion, on science, etc.*
Which essentially translates as anyone who doesn't happen to believe the same as you do "isn't right with God". Well, haven't seen that sort of self righteous bunk before...

Otherwise, nobody is obliged to be on any side of the political aisle, hold to a rigid belief that mirrors yours or deny science to be as you describe.
 
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