Can a Christian lose their salvation
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That makes no sense.
Correct.
"Those" who are not sinners have already repented of sin.
They need no further repentance from sin.
Thanks be to God !
7djengo7
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Sinner, what do you mean by your phrase, "repent of sin"?
As Jesus said..."And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" (John 11:26)
Do you believe it ?
I do, as I know that the vessel is not "life".
It is just a suitcase for the life.
7djengo7
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Believe what? What Jesus says, or what you say? I beleve what Jesus says, not what you say, as you do not say what Jesus says. And Jesus says nothing here about never giving up the ghost; this verse has nothing to do with the fact you irrelevantly brought up, that Elijah was uniquely taken up to heaven, bodily, without ever giving up the ghost.
You know you cannot respond rationally to the objection I levelled against your stupidity about Elijah, so, yet again, you being the lying, scummy weasel you are, you have futilely tried to move attention away from your failure by mindlessly quoting yet another Bible verse that does not support your Christ-hating heresy.
You give a strong impression that you're a suitcase stuffed full of crack cocaine.
7djengo7
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Jesus is not a sinner. So, what you have just told us is that Jesus has repented of sin.
Only sinners repent of sins, you Christ-hating sinner. Non-sinners have no sins, so non-sinners never repent of sins.
Sinner, your God-blaspheming heresy is, at its core, your sin of calling your sin "not sin": you calling your evil "good". That shtick is not going to work out to your advantage at the Great White Throne of Judgement, when you tell Christ to His face that your sin is not sin. Sinner, you are in dire need of changing your sin-corrupted mind about your sin, before it is too late.
7djengo7
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That is just the latest of countless instances throughout this thread of you sinning by taking God's name in vain. (As well as of you showing that you have some sort of mental impairment that makes you always feel you need to put a space before an exclamation mark or a question mark.)
7djengo7
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By agreeing that only sinners can/do repent from sin, you are flat out contradicting your claim that non-sinners can/do repent from sin.
But your sin-degenerated mind despises logic, and relishes your incoherence, so that you are vainly proud of yourself for your self-contradiction.
Good catch.
As Jesus was never a sinner, He had no need of repentance from sin.
And thank God for that, as He is our example of how to "walk".
Correct.
Who are you addressing ?
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It isn't in vain, as my thanksgiving are heartfelt.
My lap-top puts the punctuation marks so close to the last letter that I sometimes can't see it .
I find that the gap illustrates it better.
Why would someone who doesn't commit sin, repent of sin ?
7djengo7
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Yet, as I pointed out, you said Jesus, Who is not a sinner, has repented of sin:
So, you've told us Jesus had no need to repent from sin, but that He has repented of sin, anyway.
7djengo7
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I disagree with Hoping about his beliefs, but do you really think your ad hominem attacks will get him to change his mind? Do you really think logical fallacies are a reasonable form of argumentation?
After reading the attacks on Hoping I can say they do more to convince me you are wrong than that he is as he shows far more patience and kindness than you do. His actions are far more Christian than yours.
Calling a broken shovel a broken shovel is a good thing.
Hoping is not a Christian. He is not saved. He claims to be sinless after "converting" to being a follower of Christ, and he places his trust in his ability to keep a law rather than in Christ's completed work on the cross.
Sometimes, the most effective way to get someone to wake up from their foolishness is to tell them they're being a fool directly and in the most blunt manner possible.
Which is why what he says is so dangerous, because they give the appearance of wisdom.
Make no mistake, he is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Really? Is that how someone gets you to listen to them by insulting you many times? That causes you to listen closely to them and carefully consider what they say? Or does it turn you off?
7djengo7
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Oh, I doubt that. At least, one wouldn't know it by the way you sit there in silence while he airs his ravings. Why don't you start challenging the things he says, if you really think he's in error, you poser?
To what, exactly, are you referring by your phrase, "ad hominem attacks"?
"Get him to change his mind" from what to what?
Do you really think "logical fallacies" is a reasonable combination of words? Since no fallacy is logical, and since what is logical is not fallacy, your phrase is ridiculous, an oxymoron.
...he let you visit him in the hospital, and you signed his cast?
Wrong in which statement(s)? Start detailing and trying to refute exactly wherein you claim I am wrong, poser.
He has shown no one any kindness. Unless you want to tell us it is kind of him to go about teaching Christ-despising, heretical falsehood in blatant contradiction against the Truth of God's Word, The Bible. But, now I want to observe you personally thanking him in a post for whatever "kindness" you say he has shown you. If you don't do so, your failure to do so will be you advertising that even you know your words alleging his "kindness" are empty, and a joke.
I've shown that Christ-despising heretic far more kindness than you have shown him. I've invested a substantial amount of time and thoughtful effort into really trying to subject some of the insidious details of his Christ-despising, heretical ravings to analysis, to display them in all their wrongness.
He's not even a Christian, so which of his actions are you calling "Christian"?
You make me chuckle. You're going to deny logical fallacies exist? That's all I need to address from your post to show how absurd your position is. For someone who claims to be very logical you're taking a very illogical position.
You have been here long enough to know that TOL is a different kind of forum. Members are allowed to call it like it is or how they see it. We try not to censor too much until members are drawing unnecessary attention to themselves.