Ooops, I'll go back and edit that.
No other comments besides on my typing skill ?
Can a Christian lose their salvation
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No other comments besides on my typing skill ?
No, it is you misreading what I wrote.
I wrote..."Had been a sinner...yes."
Of course not.
He won't go outside the laws He established...like: He won't tell lies, or tempt a man.
If He wants to change those laws, He will.
I realize that.
I will try to add more detail in future posts so you can clearly understand the ideas expressed therein.
7djengo7
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I wrote:
But you used the direct quote function in your post to flagrantly to misquote my words thus:
I never write a comma immediately followed by a question mark, because that is as dumb as to separate a question mark from the last letter of a sentence by a space, and other frequent stupidities engaged in by the semi-literate. I'm fine with simple leading or ending truncations of my text, or use of ellipses to show where portions of my text have been removed by the excerptor, when people use the direct quote function. But you have committed quote-mangling against me, trying to make it appear that I printed a comma immediately before my question mark: "get,?" Believe me, you Bible-denier, if you keep up that foul practice, I will have no qualm against flagging you on it to the TOL moderators. Please own your foul, and correct your error.
What did you respond to ?
hint...(it was my response.) LOL
Please stick to the topic.
Otherwise I won't be able to tell if you are learning anything.
I have quit posting your accusations.
They make you look childish and I didn't want future readers to think poorly of you.
7djengo7
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I had stated:
To which you responded:
That's you signifying your agreement with what I had stated; that's you agreeing with the fact that, according to your vicious heresy, a new creature has been a sinner. Don't respond with a "yes" to the fact I have stated if you don't agree with the fact I have stated, you vicious, lying fool.
7djengo7
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It was your mindless reaction. Duh. LOL
7djengo7
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You've been warned. Better not continue your practice of quote-mangling.
AMEN!
What, did you think I wouldn't agree with this passage?
It means offered, given. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Luke... Oh wait, you won't be able to, because you aren't saved...
When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.”
Bible Gateway passage: Acts 11:18 - New King James Version
When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.”
AKOUSANTES DE TAUTA HESUCHASAN KAI EDOXASAN TON THEON LEGONTES ARE KAI TOIS ETHNESIN HO THEOS TEN METANOIAN EIS ZOEN EDOKEN
"EDOKEN" is "DIDOMI".
DIDOMI (Strong's g1325) means "to offer, give; to put, place."
God has offered the Gentiles "a change of mind unto life."
Repent of your false beliefs.
There is no "from sin" in that passage. You have added it to scripture.
What it says is "repentance unto life."
Repentance means "a change of mind."
What is the "change of mind" from and to?
God is life.
The change of mind is "living without God" (death), to "living with God" (life).
That's it! That's all there is to it!
God has set before you life and death. Therefore, CHOOSE LIFE, that you may live!
What does sorrow have to do with anything?
The verse is about a change of mind.
Saying it doesn't make it so.
Wrong.
Unless you want to say Paul and Barnabas were unregenerated...
But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Bible Gateway passage: Acts 14:14-15 - New King James Version
But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living...
Paul and Barnabas had the same nature as those who had not yet turned to the living God.
That right there should make you stop and think about your position.
Bandage?
You call the seal of the Holy Spirit a "bandage"?
No, I am sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.
He is the guarantee of my inheritance!
If that's a bandage, then so be it! You clearly don't have it!
You have no cure. Your "cure" is "to do good works" by loving God and loving your neighbor. You have turned it from a law of faith into a law of works.
Your "cure" of working until you are saved is just as effective as getting a Covid-19 vaccine in order to prevent yourself from getting Covid-19!
God has set before you life and death. Choose life, that you may live.
Repent, turn to God, because He is Life itself! Put your trust in Him and His completed work on the cross! Only HE can save you!
"Had" been...once was a sinner.
You failed to notice the re-wording I responded to.
Quit editorializing, and I will be able to quit editing your posts.
You said God did not offer repentance to salvation to men.
I provided a verse to help change your mind.
I am "hoping" I will be, when God declares it on the day of judgement.
When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.”
Bible Gateway passage: Acts 11:18 - New King James Version
When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.”www.biblegateway.com
7djengo7
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Here, you are admitting that you're not in this thread to respond to what others have written, but to instead carry on with yourself.
Question: Why would you use the
function to address your post to me, quoting something I had written, and pretend (by saying "yes") to agree with what I had written, only to turn around and say that you do not agree with what I had written, but were saying "yes" to something you wrote, instead? Answer: Because you are a non compos mentis troll.
You seem to have forgotten to what I was replying to.
Here is what was said:
You said, "God offered mankind repentance from sin."
But that's not what He offered.
He offered "repentance unto life." That is, in fact, "salvation"!
It's the "from sin" part I was correcting you on.
God has put before you LIFE and DEATH, therefore CHOOSE LIFE (repent), and live!
Repent means "change of mind."
God offered a change of mind, from living without God (death) to living with God (life, because He IS Life).
I was never in disagreement with the verse to begin with.
Your "hope" is vain, because your hope is not in God, it's in your good works.
Repent, turn and live!
Now, would you please retract your claim?
Unless you really want to say Paul and Barnabas were unregenerated...
But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Bible Gateway passage: Acts 14:14-15 - New King James Version
But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard this, they tore their clothes and ran in among the multitude, crying out and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living...
Paul and Barnabas had the same nature as those who had not yet turned to the living God.
That right there should make you stop and think about your position.
7djengo7
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Would you like me to start quote-mangling against you, as you've been doing against me, and are here threatening to continue doing against me? Too bad, Satan-seed; not gonna happen.
7djengo7
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I agree with what you wrote, but used better English to do so.
"New creatures had been sinners."
If you wish to "re-do" my use of English to a more readable form...please do so.
I'm pretty sure the point @7djengo7 is trying to make is that you're refusing to recognize that something you said regarding your position was in error, because your position is self-contradictory, and that you should humble yourself and recognize that, and then make an effort to retract the incorrect thing you said.