Calvinism: Satan's Attempt to Pervert the "Historical Gospel" of Jesus Christ

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Robert Pate

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But you teach that sinners Christ died to save still wind up lost? How is that if you believe He's the Saviour?

God does not impose salvation on anyone. If you want to be saved you will have to call on Christ to save you.

"Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
 

beloved57

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God does not impose salvation on anyone. If you want to be saved you will have to call on Christ to save you.

"Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

False teaching. Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies, while they hated God and didn't want anything to do with Him, yet God reconciled them to Himself by Jesus Christ Rom 5:10
 

Robert Pate

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False teaching. Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies, while they hated God and didn't want anything to do with Him, yet God reconciled them to Himself by Jesus Christ Rom 5:10

You twist and pervert God's word and attempt to make it say something that it doesn't.
 

Robert Pate

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You just reject the truth. The natural man can't receive the truth of the Gospel. Reconciliation is a Gospel Truth!

The doctrine of reconciliation is the results of the Gospel. Jesus is the one that has reconciled us and the world unto God. No predestination or religion was needed.
 

Nanja

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The doctrine of reconciliation is the results of the Gospel. Jesus is the one that has reconciled us and the world unto God. No predestination or religion was needed.


No. Jesus did not reconcile the whole world of humanity unto himself.

There are two different worlds.

For there is a world that God Loved John 3:16 Eph. 1:4 and a world of humanity that was condemned already.

John 3:18,36
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

The Believing on Christ which guarantees Salvation is a fruit of the Holy Spirit given in in New Birth to all God's Elect Gal. 5:22.

But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world 1 Cor. 11:32.
 

Robert Pate

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No. Jesus did not reconcile the whole world of humanity unto himself.

There are two different worlds.

For there is a world that God Loved John 3:16 Eph. 1:4 and a world of humanity that was condemned already.

John 3:18,36
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

The Believing on Christ which guarantees Salvation is a fruit of the Holy Spirit given in in New Birth to all God's Elect Gal. 5:22.

But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world 1 Cor. 11:32.


You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith.

There is only one world, it is the world that was reconciled into God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

No one has been or will be predestinated. You have rejected the Gospel of reconciliation and are now without hope. All that you have to look forward to is judgment and condemnation.
 

Nanja

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You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith.

The Gospel is hid from you 'cause you're Lost 2 Cor. 4:3.

Justification by Faith in Time is evidence that one has been Justified by Grace before the world began.


2 Tim. 1:8-9
8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began


For by the Faith which is Given in New Birth Gal. 5:22, the Elect come to know of their Eternal Justification: That according to God's Law and Justice they have been abjured Righteous in God's sight based solely on Christ their Surety's Heb. 7:22 Blood Work on their behalf Is. 53:6; Rev. 13:8.


Rom. 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.


There is only one world, it is the world that was reconciled into God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

Those verses are speaking of the same Elect World that was reconciled to God, while being His enemies, by Christ's death for them Rom. 5:10! The World of God's Elect, as opposed to the world that was condemned already John 3:18,36.


No one has been or will be predestinated. You have rejected the Gospel of reconciliation and are now without hope. All that you have to look forward to is judgment and condemnation.


False teaching against the Truth of the scriptures. Paul speaking to God's Elect Saints at Ephesus penned this:

Eph. 1:3-5
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will
 

beloved57

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You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith.

There is only one world, it is the world that was reconciled into God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

No one has been or will be predestinated. You have rejected the Gospel of reconciliation and are now without hope. All that you have to look forward to is judgment and condemnation.

Denial of scripture , Eph 1:5 and telling lies !
 

Nanja

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You two are a sad case.

You have been blinded to the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ.


All you are able to do is lie against, and pervert the scriptures which are Spiritual, because you are not born of God.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 

beloved57

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All you are able to do is lie against, and pervert the scriptures which are Spiritual, because you are not born of God.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Amen Sister! And Happy New Years to you and yours!
 
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