Calvinism, Catholicism are NOT of the Faith

beloved57

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Read what the scripture says... John 3:36.

"He that believes on the Son has everlasting life"

This is the same as John 3:16.

"And he that does not believe shall not see life"

Nothing about anyone being predestinated. Its about believing.

"But the wrath of God abides on him"

Those that do not believe on Jesus the wrath of God abides on them. They are under God's wrath because they do not believe. They have not been predestinated to hell by God. They are going to hell because they do not belive.
Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies and unbelievers Rom 5:10 they not under Gods Wrath!
 

Robert Pate

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They not under Gods wrath while unbelievers and enemies because God has been propitiated for them 1 Jn 2:2 , thats why 1 Jn 2:2 supports limited atonement or reconciliation !


You are like a drowning man grasping at straws to stay afloat.

1 John 2:2 says that that Jesus death on the cross was for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD.

You don't believe that. Stop lying to yourself and accept what the scripture says.
 

beloved57

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You are like a drowning man grasping at straws to stay afloat.

1 John 2:2 says that that Jesus death on the cross was for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD.

You don't believe that. Stop lying to yourself and accept what the scripture says.

You lying to yourself, many people in the whole world are under Gods wrath Jn 3:36, so they cannot be part of the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2 where Gods wrath has been propitiated ! Thats why 1 Jn 2:2 supports limited atonement !
 

Robert Pate

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You lying to yourself, many people in the whole world are under Gods wrath Jn 3:36, so they cannot be part of the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2 where Gods wrath has been propitiated ! Thats why 1 Jn 2:2 supports limited atonement !

The only ones that are under God's wrath are those who do not believe.

"He that does not believe the Son shall not see life: but the wrath of God abides upon him" John 3:36.

1 John 2:2 has nothing to do with John 3:36. You are desparate to believe a lie and will go to any end to support your phony religion.
 

beloved57

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The only ones that are under God's wrath are those who do not believe.

"He that does not believe the Son shall not see life: but the wrath of God abides upon him" John 3:36.

1 John 2:2 has nothing to do with John 3:36. You are desparate to believe a lie and will go to any end to support your phony religion.
Those reconciled to God by Christ death while they are enemies and unbelievers are not under Gods Wrath Rom 5:10 !
 

Robert Pate

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Those reconciled to God by Christ death while they are enemies and unbelievers are not under Gods Wrath Rom 5:10 !

You are taking scripture out of context again.

This is why the Bible does not make sense for you. You pull out one scripture and then try to build a whole doctrine on it.

If you do not receive what Christ has done for you in the Gospel you will never see heaven.
 

beloved57

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You are taking scripture out of context again.

This is why the Bible does not make sense for you. You pull out one scripture and then try to build a whole doctrine on it.

If you do not receive what Christ has done for you in the Gospel you will never see heaven.

No sir, you are rejecting what the scripture states, those Christ died for were reconciled to God while they were enemies Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
 

Robert Pate

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No sir, you are rejecting what the scripture states, those Christ died for were reconciled to God while they were enemies Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Only if you receive his life as your life.
 

Nanja

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If you do not receive what God has done for you in Jesus Christ you will perish.


Pate, do you see how absurd your statement is?

Does Salvation depend on what we do, or does it depend on what God has already done
for all those He had Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world to be inheritors
of Eternal Life Eph. 1:4-11; 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 3:5.

You either believe the scriptures, or you don't.

If you continue to remain in unbelief, it means that you have been purposely blinded to the Truth 2 Cor. 4:3-4!

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Robert Pate

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Pate, do you see how absurd your statement is?

Does Salvation depend on what we do, or does it depend on what God has already done
for all those He had Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world to be inheritors
of Eternal Life Eph. 1:4-11; 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 3:5.

You either believe the scriptures, or you don't.

If you continue to remain in unbelief, it means that you have been purposely blinded to the Truth 2 Cor. 4:3-4!

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You have 0 scriptures that says God has predestinated people to be saved before the foundation of the world.

You have a handful of scriptures that you have assumed are saying that, but 0 that actually says that.

God does NOTHING outside of his Son Jesus Christ.

No, God does not predestinate sinners to salvation. If you want to be saved you will have to call on Christ to save you.
 

Nanja

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If you want to be saved you will have to call on Christ to save you.


Works salvation! :nono:

Does Salvation depend on what we do?

No. Salvation is all the Work of Christ on behalf of the Promised Seed Gal. 3:16.
Christ died as the Seed of Abraham for His Body, His Church, the Seed of Abraham Eph. 1:4-11; 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 3:5.

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Robert Pate

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Works salvation! :nono:

Does Salvation depend on what we do?

No. Salvation is all the Work of Christ on behalf of the Promised Seed Gal. 3:16.
Christ died as the Seed of Abraham for His Body, His Church, the Seed of Abraham Eph. 1:4-11; 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 3:5.

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Man was created to receive.

All that you are and all that you have is yours because you received it, either from another person or from God.

You breath air, You eat and drink, all of this is yours because you receive it.

There is nothing in life that is yours if you don't receive it.

God saw our great need for a savior and provided us with one. This savior and all that he accomplished on your behalf is not yours if you don't receive it, John 1:12.
 

beloved57

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Man was created to receive.

All that you are and all that you have is yours because you received it, either from another person or from God.

You breath air, You eat and drink, all of this is yours because you receive it.

There is nothing in life that is yours if you don't receive it.

God saw our great need for a savior and provided us with one. This savior and all that he accomplished on your behalf is not yours if you don't receive it, John 1:12.

Invalid comments !
 

beloved57

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You have 0 scriptures that says God has predestinated people to be saved before the foundation of the world.

You have a handful of scriptures that you have assumed are saying that, but 0 that actually says that.

God does NOTHING outside of his Son Jesus Christ.

No, God does not predestinate sinners to salvation. If you want to be saved you will have to call on Christ to save you.

Comments of Unbelief !
 
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