Yes, but the point is - what difference would it make to pray for those who are already dead? Dave's right, the chances are that many of those tragically killed would not have been Christian, I heard on the news today that there was one person - a 76 year old Romanian Holocaust survivor - actually used himself as a human shield to protect some students and was killed in the process, what will his reward be for his selfless heroism if He wasnt 'saved' already?
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Yes, but the point is - what difference would it make to pray for those who are already dead? Dave's right, the chances are that many of those tragically killed would not have been Christian, I heard on the news today that there was one person - a 76 year old Romanian Holocaust survivor - actually used himself as a human shield to protect some students and was killed in the process, what will his reward be for his selfless heroism if He wasnt 'saved' already?
Ecumenicist
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Do those quotes apply to Christians praying for God to comfort nonChristians?
Aimiel
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You're leaning upon your own understanding, and making The Word of God into what you imagine, instead of acknowledging God in all you do.
Aimiel - you actually 'leaned on your own understanding' to come up with such an argument that ET is there to stop evil from escaping, there is no wisdom involved in pointing out the blatantly obvious that to stop evil annihihaltionsim makes much more sense where evil would be vanquished forever, and I'm not even an annihaltionist....
Nineveh
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If all are included it wouldn't matter one way or the other now would it?
You must not have found that god/dess yet.
Nineveh
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No you haven't.
Okey dokey.
Not really. You haven't asked forgivenss and persist in your ways.
I missed that verse...
"Take heed to yourselves, if your brother sins against you just agree to disagree or call a truce...." Where can I find that? Next to the verses that indicate the majority throughout history have loved and obeyed God?
Aimiel
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That's your problem, you try to make sense out of your imagined scenarios, instead of allowing the clear Word of God to bring you to an understanding of sound doctrine. :nono:
logos_x
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I believe it is both body and soul.
One reason I believe this is the scripture I quoted earlier...
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
(Psa 22:29 KJV)
Try to insert that scripture into your theology.
It fits with mine perfectly.
Now...if everyone is done with questions directed at me...I'm done arguing with you.
God bless.
Nineveh
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Um... aren't you the apostate? Besides, I don't see the CINO's deconverting you any.
Aimiel
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I strongly disagree with that remark. Attempting to offend an offensive and ignorant professing 'Christian' to attempt to shed some light upon their hypocracy so that they don't end up in hell is not only very Christian, it is to be applauded. I wish I were half as knowledgeable and articulate as her. Also, not being Christian, you don't have the first clue who is a Christian witness and who isn't. You can't even see The Kingdom, so you can't expect to govern It.
Yes, i have, this is a strawman argument Nineveh, I spent two years in a pentecostal church where hellfire/brimstone was the cornerstone of the message, if you think that I embraced universalism just because it 'sounded nice' you are completely mistaken, now will you please answer what you thought Jesus's answer to the disciples meant? Why can you not answer this question?
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you wont even acknowledege your own error, what 'persist in my ways' is supposed to mean exactly I have no idea, you'll just be a hypocrite to keep hounding me on this issue and I'm tired of your arrogance
You've sinned against me in this thread, you bore false witness against me with a pathetic misrepresentation of one of my posts, are you going to acknowledge that? I suspect not....you are not above the law yourself no matter how quickly you stand in judgement of others
This was your imagined scenario as to why eternal torment made sense, it doesnt require wisdom to point out that for evil to be vanquished annihalationism would make more sense, its pointing out the already blindingly obvious....
Nineveh
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Too bad we aren't talking about pentecostal doctrine. I am trying to point out the obvious to you. The Bible documents most people throughout history have and do hate God. I know you want to avoid the Bible like the plague, but it's still there whether you wanna believe what it says or not.
, said the lying hypocrite.
Nineveh
Merely Christian
You always have the option to address the rest of the Bible any time you find out what it actually says.
Maybe you should do the same, then you might be able to answer peoples questions when they ask you to address a verse....
Is this a case of declairing victory and walking away?
logos_x
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I was under the impression that you think I'm wrong.
That is not a victory.
It is what it is. I don't think further arguments are going to provide a different outcome than what we have...it will never end, unless we just walk away from this particular thread and move on.
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