heir
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Battle Royale XIV discussion thread
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heir
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Do versions like the NIV facilitate that Paul preached a different gospel as the 12 or do they make it appear as if it is the same, just to different people?
Galatians 2:7 NIV
heir
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Do versions like the NIV make clear or hide the fact that we are justified by the faith OF Jesus Christ? Galatians 2:16 NIV
SaulToPaul 2
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Quoted by Heir
"The "resources we have available" IS "all scripture" (2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV). God will sort out the "rest of the world" just as He did concerning reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV)."
Yes "all scripture" and in many parts of the World "all scripture" is what they have available. Yes, God will sort out the rest of the world, God is not reduced to a Translation.
"The "resources we have available" IS "all scripture" (2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV). God will sort out the "rest of the world" just as He did concerning reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV)."
Yes "all scripture" and in many parts of the World "all scripture" is what they have available. Yes, God will sort out the rest of the world, God is not reduced to a Translation.
Yes. And further, seems like, even if there was a perfect printed version, then men would definitely worship it. After all, some already idolize it (even after admitting it has some errors).
Thanks mamatuzzo! - Bob
heir
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Maybe you can answer this question.
heir
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Is this idolatry?
Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
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Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
You just proved the KJV causes confusion.
Paul preached the same gospel to different people.
There is only one gospel.
Cedarbay
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Important question. Some Christians use this version for personal reading and study. 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
Galatians 2:16
16 Know that a man is not justified by the works of the Law, but by the faith [a]of Jesus Christ, even we, I say, have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the Law, because that by the works of the Law, no flesh shall be justified.
heir
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No, corrupted knockoffs do.
Anyone who can read and count sees 2!
Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Persently, yes. In the Bible there are several!
heir
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Things that are different are NOT the same! Are these the same?
Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Peter preached the above to Gentiles!
Paul preached this to Gentiles!
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
I made no claim that the NIV was a perfect translation. God is not reduced to a translation,
Those who read and study to show themselves approved, know there is one.
KJVO's are against studying.
heir
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You didn't answer the question.
heir
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It's the word of truth that we are to rightly divide. You can't even define what it is or how to do it.
There would be no need to 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV if there was only one.
Maybe if you actually studied and used other versions you wouldn't be a Bullingerite.
I can't speak to their intent, Gentiles were certainly the Uncircumcised.
brandplucked
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Originally Posted by brandplucked
Hi Journey. And so you remain the bible agnostic who does NOT believe that any Bible in history ever was the complete and inerrant words of God that you were before the debate, and you prefer your new Vatican versions like the ESV, NASB.
I'm like, totally shocked
Hi journey. If I am not telling the truth and am the one who is lying, then all you have to do to prove me wrong is to do what none of you have done (including Bob Enyart and Will Duffy) is to tell us with all honesty WHICH Bible it is that you believe is the complete and inerrant words of God.
But you won't do that, will you? Why? Because you really do not believe there is such a thing. You are just too dishonest to admit it.
So who is the one that is not telling the truth, you or me?
You may not agree with me about what I believe. But I have been consistent in my stated beliefs.
I can show you a copy or give you a link to where you can see for yourself what I believe is the inerrant words of God. So far, not one of you bible agnostics have done that.
Hi Journey. And so you remain the bible agnostic who does NOT believe that any Bible in history ever was the complete and inerrant words of God that you were before the debate, and you prefer your new Vatican versions like the ESV, NASB.
I'm like, totally shocked
Hi journey. If I am not telling the truth and am the one who is lying, then all you have to do to prove me wrong is to do what none of you have done (including Bob Enyart and Will Duffy) is to tell us with all honesty WHICH Bible it is that you believe is the complete and inerrant words of God.
But you won't do that, will you? Why? Because you really do not believe there is such a thing. You are just too dishonest to admit it.
So who is the one that is not telling the truth, you or me?
You may not agree with me about what I believe. But I have been consistent in my stated beliefs.
I can show you a copy or give you a link to where you can see for yourself what I believe is the inerrant words of God. So far, not one of you bible agnostics have done that.
heir
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The answer to the question is simple.
Versions like the NIV make it appear as if it's the same, just to different people.
When in fact there are two very real gospels in the verse (and at that time)!
Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;