So in essence your pretty much agreeing with Bob's point.
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Freak
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Bob said: Thanks for responding to my question which was: Can you give me a list of a few countries and locales that you are thinking of (which disprove the point I made about naitive women reasserting their modesty).
Even Bob acknowledged that eyewitness testimony as evidence.
Freak
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Essentially I agree with pretty much everything Bob has stated. I, however, believe he was wrong by stating that tribeswoman were inclined to assert their modesty. Generally speaking, that is not the case. But those who come to Christ that is the case. Perhaps, he should have been alittle clearer.
Besides, he even acknowledged my eyewitness testimony:
Thanks for responding to my question which was: Can you give me a list of a few countries and locales that you are thinking of (which disprove the point I made about naitive women reasserting their modesty).
Ugh. :freak:Originally posted by Freak
Bob said: Thanks for responding to my question which was: Can you give me a list of a few countries and locales that you are thinking of (which disprove the point I made about naitive women reasserting their modesty).
Even Bob acknowledged that eyewitness testimony as evidence.
Freak, you are having a very difficult time understanding simple concepts here on this thread, I suggest you rethink your objection.
Freak
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I believe you're attempting to support your pastor in the midst of the reality that he made a mistake by generally stating that tribeswomen are willing to readily assert their modesty.
If that was the case then why is the evidence to the contrary. Since I lived in the Republic of Benin I spent many months in Cotonou. Even in Cotonou (which is the captial) you'll see many of the women topless (like in the marketplace). Whenever I traveled through the marketplace the women who were topless did not reassert their modesty.
Yet the ones that were saved. Did they reassert their modesty?
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Originally posted by Knight
I think Bob's point was that they reassert their modesty after they have been lead to the truth.
"reassert" seems to be the key word don't ya think???
Saying that the tribeswomen run around topless on National Geographic tapes is only stating the obvious and misses the point entirely.
Bob's point is that people can lose their modesty but yet that modesty comes back after they have been lead to the Lord.
Do you really disagree with that point Freak? The natives that you lead to the Lord do they continue to run around naked?
Dont these "reasserters of modesty" just do as they are told?
Are they not only accepting a belief system but also a set of values and rules that they are required to abide by?
Do you consider this evidence of a latent moral standard that you consider the norm, just because they do as they are told?
Do you believe they are in denial of modesty when there is no christian influence, that they daily rejoice in the wicked nature of their natural naked state and purposely and willfully wear no clothes because they are in active rejection of what you percieve to be morally right?
Is it true that missionaries taught tribespeople to be ashamed of nakedness?
Is it that a child decides to wear clothes out of some godly requirement, nothing at all to do with societal convention and not least, the weather or even upbringing?
Do we now have an absolute modesty standard, when did this happen, where is it, wtf is it?
What the hell rubbish are you talking man? I am utterly confounded, have I just traveled back in time to the middle ages?
Freak
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Knight, Bob stated:
In rejecting God, an individual or societal conscience can be seared and values lowered. So tribesmen can adopt minimalist clothing and condition their women to go topless, but missionaries find that women in such cultures readily reassert their modesty.
The context would imply he is speaking of pagan women--those who are dead in their sins.
In rejecting God, an individual or societal conscience can be seared and values lowered. So tribesmen can adopt minimalist clothing and condition their women to go topless, but missionaries find that women in such cultures readily reassert their modesty.
The context would imply he is speaking of pagan women--those who are dead in their sins.
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