TracerBullet
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Stupid post.
Yes, all of yours are, now let's get back to the topic
Stupid post.
In such a case, he would be disciplined by the Church and would be unable to receive the Sacrament of the Eucharist. Likewise regarding someone who "declared his intent" to commit---and actually did commit---the sins of, e.g., adultery, theft, fornication, lying, etc.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
Something around a third of Rome's collars - the guys who GIVE communion - are already estimated to be sodomites so that point is kinda moot, know what I mean?
Those in favor of this kind of self-righteous religious bigotry should try and answer your question.
They won't, though.
Yes, all of yours are, now let's get back to the topic
Yes, thats true, but just showing him his own objection is practiced by his church - being refused communion is a form of dis fellowship.
Of course. To put the same point on my beliefs, everyone feels bad when they are "removed" from their group. Even though that group might consist of people who aren't like you are.Are you unaware that removing a person from the membership of a church doesnt ban them from attending the church?
Of course. To put the same point on my beliefs, everyone feels bad when they are "removed" from their group. Even though that group might consist of people who aren't like you are.
I get my thinking and beliefs because I have always been curious and empathetic of others. It makes for some not-so-good times in my life, but I feel (since I got to know Jesus) fully human for the first time in years.
I love my God and have no fear. I have healthy boundaries that protect me from the ignorance or cruelty from others.
You might just say that human hypocrisy is a problem.Yeah, but see, it's always different when papists do it. Like passing pedo-priests from parish to parish without telling anyone? Or tolerating known homos giving out The Cookie? Hey, if Rome chooses to ignore such, then it's not a problem. But let a non-Catholic church kick out an open homosexual? THAT'S a problem.
The discipline mentioned in the Bible is disfellowshipping and shunning.In such a case, he would be disciplined by the Church
You probably have heard that being unable to receive the Sacrament of the Eucharist has about as much on a person as being unable to receive a Vegemite Sandwich, right?and would be unable to receive the Sacrament of the Eucharist. Likewise regarding someone who "declared his intent" to commit---and actually did commit---the sins of, e.g., adultery, theft, fornication, lying, etc.
Say some Hail Marys, say some Our Fathers, and pray the Rosary.What type of discipline would be metted out?
Try reading the OP again and the comments on it.Wonderful, but doesn't address the issue at all.
Some human being was spewed out of someone else's mouth. Not a good feeling. We all know what that feels like.
At least I do.
Are they also planning to kick out all those who are tempted by, say, adultery, drunkenness, fornication, lust, stealing, lying, envy, or hatred? :think:
Try reading the OP again and the comments on it.
Some human being was spewed out of someone else's mouth. Not a good feeling. We all know what that feels like.
At least I do.
Arkansas Church Kicks Out Young Gay Man For ‘Choosing A Sinful Lifestyle’
"We will continue to pray for you and your family."
Seems huffington post and this young man who was a 6 year member of this church calling himself a brother - needs to be reminded of this bible verse:
1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
They obviously also do not understand that being a member of the local church and being able to attend it, aren't the same thing.
This church did the right thing imo, and followed scripture after being informed that he wanted to openly embrace being gay.
Thoughts?
I see where the church followed the Scriptures:
"Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted" (Galatians 6:1).
WE should be in a fellowship where there is accountability. But the accountability to God first then our brothers and sisters. And we should not have any fear of " Judgement". These fellowships appear to very hard to find. I suggest people pray intently for God to lead them to a fellowship-church where they know Gods love exist.
Confessing our sins does not mean judgement. We do so to deepen our walk, our love and intimacy with Jesus.
The church mentioned did appear to try to restore the brother:
My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, 20let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. James 5:19,20
But it was his choice to remain unrepentant.
We all have sins as Cruciform noted. But we should also desire to be free from known sin. This desire will cause growth in our relationship with Jesus and each other.
...I wonder if the whiners calling themselves Christians who clearly dont care what that verse says about it, would also defend an adulterer who says he is going to embrace his adulterous affair anyway - and had their membership revoked?
It makes no sense to have a person join a club and be prevented from participating as a member.Where did they say that he couldn't attend the church, he just cannot participate as a member, in other words, he cant teach sunday school, lead others, vote on anything within the church, etc..
Open sin conditions are not suppose to feel good, thats the point.
Nobody said it was.I know what it says, since i am who made this thread.
Open sin isnt suppose to feel good.