Arkansas Church Kicks Out Young Gay Man For ‘Choosing A Sinful Lifestyle’
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TracerBullet
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I see you still aren't bright enough to know what a minority is
A minority is one less than a majority, not statistically significant....
brewmama
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It may not be eliminated, but certainly should not be acted on. And plenty of homosexuality is not the result of genes, but of experiences.
Every generation is about 2-4 percent rapists, pedophiles, murderers, etc.
From adam, sin spread to all men.
Serial killers are a minority.
TracerBullet
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A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.
TracerBullet
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Evidence?
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Many more male homosexuals proportionally were homosexually molested as youngsters, compared with male heterosexuals.
Human male sex drive is like a gun, automatically controlled to target. What the gun targets is beyond our control, but we have control over whether to pull the trigger. Which is why it's a sin to act on the temptation to rape a child. Somehow or other, your gun got censored, and now it's automatically targeting things that it clearer shouldn't be. You have to not pull the trigger and be a pedophile. That's your choice. You have to choose whether or not to commit adultery: you don't have any control over the fact that your gun is automatically trained on a seductress: but you don't have to pull the trigger.
When the "gun" in this case, is instead the desire to murder: we don't have any problem: Christians (Idolaters of Christ) and PCers alike agree that murder is deliberate evil and should be punished as such. We hold ourselves responsible for pulling our own trigger in that case. It's not different with pedophiles. Obviously, your gun is censored: that's not your fault: it can't be your fault. If you try to aim your gun yourself, you're going to fail: the gun works the way it works: it aims automatically, and your only job is to either pull the trigger, or to not pull the trigger.
And when your gun is censored, and you keep on pulling the trigger, knowing it's censored, a church has the right to say, "Ah-h-h-h-h-h no."
Human male sex drive is like a gun, automatically controlled to target. What the gun targets is beyond our control, but we have control over whether to pull the trigger. Which is why it's a sin to act on the temptation to rape a child. Somehow or other, your gun got censored, and now it's automatically targeting things that it clearer shouldn't be. You have to not pull the trigger and be a pedophile. That's your choice. You have to choose whether or not to commit adultery: you don't have any control over the fact that your gun is automatically trained on a seductress: but you don't have to pull the trigger.
When the "gun" in this case, is instead the desire to murder: we don't have any problem: Christians (Idolaters of Christ) and PCers alike agree that murder is deliberate evil and should be punished as such. We hold ourselves responsible for pulling our own trigger in that case. It's not different with pedophiles. Obviously, your gun is censored: that's not your fault: it can't be your fault. If you try to aim your gun yourself, you're going to fail: the gun works the way it works: it aims automatically, and your only job is to either pull the trigger, or to not pull the trigger.
And when your gun is censored, and you keep on pulling the trigger, knowing it's censored, a church has the right to say, "Ah-h-h-h-h-h no."
brewmama
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"I have done a lot of counseling with men who struggle with same-sex attraction. Some have been in the lifestyle, others have battled with lust and pornography. I would estimate that in three-fourths of the cases, there was some sort of sexual abuse or misconduct that formed a powerful memory which contributed to the struggle. (3)
Other writers have noted the connection as well, although the numbers they cite vary depending on which studies they reference. Drs. Stanton Jones and Mark Yarhouse analyzed data from what is probably the best survey of sexual behavior in America. They write, “Experience of sexual abuse as a child, in other words, more than tripled the likelihood of later reporting homosexual orientation.” They continue, “Other studies have reported the same trend.” (4) In 1995, Dr. Thomas Schmidt, author of Straight and Narrow, cited two different studies about high rates of sexual abuse in homosexual and bisexual men. He writes:
Nevertheless, it is disturbing to find that although under 4 percent of boys are molested by men, a recent major study found that the rate of childhood molestation by men among homosexual or bisexual men was nearly ten times that (35 percent). It is also notable that 75 percent of homosexual men report their first homosexual experience prior to the age of sixteen, as compared to 22 percent of heterosexual men reporting their first heterosexual experience. "
http://www.citizenlink.com/2010/06/17/childhood-sexual-abuse-and-male-homosexuality/
No. I don't see a schizophrenic God. That is my interpretation.
What I do see are inspired people all through history who did not know how to easily confront the fact that reality is not always congenial to the human race. Earthquakes, storms, accidents and other events were attributed to a divine being who was displeased with them.
And the God they believed in killed their enemies wholesale. I lot of it comes from the inability to be accountable for our own behavior.
"God punished me," "God punished them," "the Devil made me do it" are all ways human beings have blamed others for their own unhappiness.
I try to understand the character and passion of the God Jesus recognized. One whom, as Jesus himself said, "desires mercy, not sacrifice."
genuineoriginal
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I see you still aren't bright enough to know that homosexuals are sexual perverts and not a minority.
genuineoriginal
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In other words, fundamentalist Christians are a minority.
But homosexuals are still just sexual perverts.
genuineoriginal
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Don't lie to yourself about it.
You clearly assume that the statements made by God in these verses make Him schizophrenic.
Exodus 34:6-7 6 And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. |
lifeisgood
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You forgot to put the rest...a homosexual lifestyle is always a choice.
lifeisgood
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EVERY generation of humans have 2-4% that chooses the homosexual lifestyle.
Lifestyle is ALWAYS a choice.
Whilst acknowledging that some marriages must validly end in divorce, for the most part, divorce also appears to be a choice between two people not willing to stay the course.
Science shows us that some people are born with a proclivity for the same sex.
In that case, who decides how they live their lives?
And, I believe, another germane question who gets to tell me what I must think about the choices of others?
I believe in the freedom to choose. That includes my freedom to believe that the homosexual lifestyle is an unnatural one. It is outside the norm.
However, I am not the judge. Therefore, I am a good neighbor to all of my neighbors who do not willingly harm others.
Never guess about someone. Never assume. And for gosh sakes don’t say things like “you clearly assume” without asking the person first.
God is not schizophrenic. It is the interpretations of him that come across as schizophrenic. And I take these diverse characterizations of God very seriously indeed.
People often look for a father-figure that is “on their side.” The ancient, tribal world was no exception.
I see Jesus as standing fast against the tribalism of his day. The passion and character of the God of Jesus is what I pay attention to as a Christian.
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bobdylan/withgodonourside.html
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WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE
Bob Dylan
Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And the land that I live in
Has God on its side.
Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.
The Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns on their hands
And God on their side.
The First World War, boys
It came and it went
The reason for fighting
I never did get
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.
When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And then we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.
I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war comes
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.
But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.
In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.
So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.
lifeisgood
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And that is why lifestyle is always a choice.
Empathy is a good practice. I try to imagine how I would feel if I had to suppress my love for my husband and for myself to love another woman. I flat out couldn't do it. The idea is repugnant to me.
Could it be that a person of homosexual orientation feels the same way? I don't know.
But I do know that I will not be unkind or unloving to my neighbor.
Unless he lets his dog bark all night... or lets his property become an eyesore... or behaves in a vulgar or violent way... or is abusive to animals and other persons.
Ya know, stuff like that.