and you cannot reach this sinner, but though your own faith, Jesus saved you.
Are you stuck at the gate ?
- Thread starter Faither
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and you cannot reach this sinner, but though your own faith, Jesus saved you.
I would not say yea or nay to your opinion of yourself. However your 'understanding' is quite another matter.
Your understanding counts for nothing. There is just one Holy KJV N.T.. However there are millions of varying 'understandings'.
Fact is no 'understanding' is required or necessary. All 'understandings' are corruption of truth.
You need not 'process' Truth. Truth need no understanding. Truth is literally stated in the Holy KJV N.T. for all with 'eyes to see', ' ears to hear' and hearts that are not waxed gross to receive, as literally presented.
I would not venture to offer my 'understanding' to you or to anyone else. I simply quote, literally, the relevant revelation from the Holy KJV N.T.
All things are clearly and perfectly stated in the Holy KJV N.T.. I need not and do not add, take away or 'interpret' those revelations. I simply accept them literally and quote them literally.
Indeed all I can do is quote the relevant revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. over and over. If after a few time, you still do not get the message, then it must be that you are not given by God to know Truth. This is no 'big thing'. Most are in that predicament.
Fact is, 2000 odd years ago only the disciples were given by God to know/get Truth. And thereafter, Jesus expected only a few to be ever given by God to know/get Truth.
Jesus confirmed that many will be called but only a few will be chosen.
Also, you seem to want to teach. You do not seem to be interested in learning.
You have indicated the path to communion with the Spirit of Jesus. Clearly you believe that you know the path to communion with the Spirit of Jesus. Then have your path, be loyal to it and carry-on. I would not challenge you.
At any event what do you mean by: 'Salvation is by Grace through Faith and faithing'? Where did you get that idea? It sounds like convoluted meaningless rhetoric (i.e. rhetorical nonsense). Did you make that up, all by your own self?
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Thank you Gurucam , you just answered my question in the last paragraph . your wrong about my desire to learn , that why I've done everything short of begging you to share how you've accessed the Spirit of Christ you so freely claim.
i'll check your post in the AM to see if you've had a change of heart about getting real. If not i'll leave you alone , stuck at the gate.
You said it exactly right , " but through your Faith " . It's "his " faith , not NT saving Faith .
Let me teach you Guru
No thank you.
I do not let anyone come between me and the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Love, as discerned intuitively through my own heart/spirit.
However you are free to esteem and promote other teachers, like yourself, Peter & Co. pastors, etc..
Try teaching Faither. He is looking for a sparring partner.
Seriously, what do you mean by: 'Salvation is by Grace through Faith and faithing'?
Where did you get that idea? It sounds like convoluted meaningless rhetoric (i.e. rhetorical nonsense). Did you make that up, all by your own self?
Don't you feel the need to defend and explain your words?
Don't want to show me your light?
You ask me about my communion with the Spirit of Jesus then you added 'Salvation is by Grace through Faith and faithing'.
What does 'Salvation is by Grace through Faith and faithing' means and how is it related to communion with the Spirit of Jesus?
I cannot link communion with the Spirit of Jesus to 'Salvation is by Grace through Faith and faithing'. . . . can you? Do you have a link? Can you do the linking? Or are you simply seeking to disrupt.
Indeed what are you trying to convey by: 'Salvation is by Grace through Faith and faithing'. It is all meaningless rhetoric for me, if you have not properly conveyed your meaning.
What does your slogan mean?
You ask me how I came to have communion with the Spirit of Jesus. Then you try to feed, 'Salvation is by Grace through Faith and faithing' into my answer.
To start with, I do not get your message. And as far as I figure out, those words have nothing to do with my communion with the Spirit of Jesus. Your words are simply distracting and disrupting the answer which you seek from me.
I cannot answer how I came to have communion with the Spirit of Jesus based on your ideas, additions and irrelevant (off key) disruptions.
If you truly seek an answer from me you have to listen to my response and ask questions that are based on precisely what I post.
You seem to want to trick me into accepting you as my teacher, through subterfuge 'back door' tactics. You are not interested in my answer to the question which you asked. Instead you are seeking to be my teacher. I am not interesting in any teacher other than the Spirit of Jesus, as discerned through my own heart/spirit, in real time, all the time.
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I don't think Christians should use that word when describing themselves because it has dual meaning. The perverts use it for that exact reason. I am saved by the faith of Christ. His work that he fulfilled because it was his duty. I do trust in his works, and won't do a damn thing in the flesh to upgrade or improve my standing before the Father. I will only confess to others.
John 12
32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.”
1 Timothy 2
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
My posts are available for you to read , test , and replace with better understandings .
But you aren't able to so you try to start an argument to hide yourself behind . Same thing most everyone does in here , your just wrapped in a different colored paper .
I'm rooting for you .
Some people "like" being stuck outside the gate . They think they can have Christ , (by simple belief) and serve themselves at the same time . This is the wide path and what is predominant outside the gate .
Lon
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Fixed that for you. Say it that way and it'll be close to or exactly right. :up:
I am, and have been saved by the blood of Christ many years and surly do not need to defend myself to you, or answer any of your silly questions.
Save to comments for those you some knowledge about, you dolt.
Lon
Well-known member
Irony, but I fixed that one for you too. Am I correct/right for doing so? :think:
:chuckle: You haven't talked with me near enough to try and bin me this prematurely. :chuckle:
I was 'trying' to tell you what they think instead of the strawman. Go ahead and make out of it whatever you want OR try listening more, assuming and talking less.
I actually agree with being a faither, but I rather think a new nature is already made/remade a 'faither.' It isn't 'works' other than as Ephesians 2:10 describes it: His work.
It took me awhile to get this too. It is my hope, that if you listen a bit more, you'll also get it.
-Lon
The Salvation journey or process .
Phase one : we make the initial surrendering of our lives to Christ . (pisteuo) And it must be genuine .
Phase two : God deems the surrender genuine and allows the surrendered life to be moved forward .
Phase three : The parable of the sower .
1)The called out ones who have made a genuine surrender to Him are the soil.
2) Jesus Christ Himself is the seed .
3) A hearing is being held here.
4) A grafting process begins here .
5) A response starts to happen .
6) The paradox begins to form here . ( Gods framework of understanding ).
7) This is a proving ground , a testing ground .
8) 3 out of the 4 surrendered lives will fail here .
9) Here , Christ is beginning to be formed in our hearts by Faith and faithing .
10) Decisions are made here that show God we really stand on the fact God has taken the surrendered life and will offered to Him .
11) No prayer or worship acceptable here yet .
12) No saving faith here yet .
Phase one : we make the initial surrendering of our lives to Christ . (pisteuo) And it must be genuine .
Phase two : God deems the surrender genuine and allows the surrendered life to be moved forward .
Phase three : The parable of the sower .
1)The called out ones who have made a genuine surrender to Him are the soil.
2) Jesus Christ Himself is the seed .
3) A hearing is being held here.
4) A grafting process begins here .
5) A response starts to happen .
6) The paradox begins to form here . ( Gods framework of understanding ).
7) This is a proving ground , a testing ground .
8) 3 out of the 4 surrendered lives will fail here .
9) Here , Christ is beginning to be formed in our hearts by Faith and faithing .
10) Decisions are made here that show God we really stand on the fact God has taken the surrendered life and will offered to Him .
11) No prayer or worship acceptable here yet .
12) No saving faith here yet .
I see your an administrator , i can't put you in the corn field with the rest of your " simple believers ".
Since your one of those in charge of this site with Jesus Christs name attached , you'll be held to a higher accountability. You should stay teachable .
I do not dislike you, but you are arrogant!
We will get along fine, if you wish me to ignore you, I will gladly, unless you break the forum rules.