Lon
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Uh oh... do we have another "logosX" on our hands? :nono:
AMR that tactic is highly frowned upon here at TOL.
Quoting one's self? You should have known better. Oooops DOH!
Uh oh... do we have another "logosX" on our hands? :nono:
AMR that tactic is highly frowned upon here at TOL.
He (not you, Lonster) is another one on my ignore list that keeps my web page views less cluttered up with the mental detritus of the nattering nabobs of negativism.NOW he's back, I was concerned.
I underlined the foolishness of your statement above.Anyone who believes God has to be completely unchangeable in every single way, and has to have completely planned out every event over all of existence, in order to be trusted is an untrustworthy person.
You conveniently omitted the point I was responding to:You don't realize that this is a losing argument for you, yet, do you...
You believe in Mass, Mariolatry, papacy, apostolic succession, rosary, purgatory, indulgences, tradition + Bible, etc.?!:sigh: :noid: :box:
You're an idiot.See, this is a much better statement than "Do you trust God?" 50x's (Stipe)
Stipe,THAT'S why you get put on ignore lists. Say what you mean off the bat instead of baiting questions and hoping to 'reel 'em in.'
You are a fisherman (angler), I can tell.
You're an idiot.
No, actually you miss the point entirely. The Reformation was a fine tuning of some of the doctrines, not a wholesale re-write of the nature of God and the last states that open theism would have one believe. You don't understand your theological history or the essentials involved. That was patently obvious from your post above.
I actually figured you had cited the source in some previous post months ago since you've repeated the same lines a dozen or more times (without substantiating them, by the way). I only brought it up to goad you into responding. Figures that you would ignore the other four more substantive objections and focus exclusively on being defensive and hypocritically insulting.No, what I like is for folks to r-e-a-d what I have written elsewhere instead of re-asking the same questions over and over due to skimming and looking for things to wail about. Makes it hard for anyone, including me, to keep track of what they have written and actually properly cited here. You are just too desperate, aren't you?
That's because you aren't looking. Your definition of dissecting such arguments amount to responding point for point to the entire collective works of John Calvin and others like him, which you know will never happen. It clearly gives you some sort of glib satisfaction to point out that no one has met your impossible challenge but it doesn't impress me at all. The fact is that doing so would be a complete waste of time and is entirely unnecessary. The distinctive doctrines of Calvinism are all based on a very few foundational premises. Falsify anyone of those premises and the entire theological system falls completely apart. You've said so yourself...I have yet to see you or anyone else take the arguments of the great theologians of this and past eras, dissect them carefully, and make a reasoned position.
WHERE? Please give me a link or two too these posts. I must have missed them.Yet, I and others, have written numerously about the errors of the interpretations by the few open theists that have published, carefully outlining and substantiating where they have erred in their techniques.
The response from the open theist community has primarily centered around the genetic fallacies, "Aristotle!" "Calvin!", "Augustine!".
This has to be another lie AMR! There is just no way I can be made to believe that you are completely ignorant of the dozens of books written by these men and others. You've read Battle Royale X and that alone would disprove this statement.No one, Boyd, Pinnock, or Sanders, included, has taken up the task to respond to their critics with anything that resembles a proper exegetical rejoinder to their critics. I and many in the church would welcome such a response.
Clete. Do you trust God?
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Originally Posted by stipe View Post
Clete. Do you trust God?
Of course! With my very soul!
I'll give him 2 fiddy.AMR has made a career of turning Living Bread into stones and calling that miraculous. Like all wordrich-religious-rulers, Mr. Religion needs to sell his library, give it all to the poor and just follow Jesus.
Good answer, Clete.
Why do you trust God?
Interesting that I tend to distrust questions like this.Good answer, Clete.
Why do you trust God?