Josh 3:10 And Joshua said, By this you shall know that the living God is among you, and that He will without fail drive out from before you the Canaanites and the Hittites and the Hivites and the Perizzites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Jebusites.
”On my next post, I'll show that God didn't do what He said He would in these verses.” (Bob Hill)
When God changes his mind, when he regrets he made Saul king, when he regrets that he made man on the earth. These would indicate mistakes, errors in judgment. Pastor Bob has again stopped discussing points with me, and I wish he would answer my questions. Please...
How then were people included in the plan to have Saul be king, what adjustment was made to include people in this plan? No, OVT says this plan was abandoned, not adjusted.
I agree that my views are Calvinistic, I also think I have heard what the OVT is really saying, they say God changes his mind, he repents.
He makes erroneous judgments.
So then again, we may not always trust God's counsel, for he may repent of that decision, and have to reverse it.
I grow tired of OVT people denying the plainest facts about their view, and also the plain facts in Scripture, in order to maintain it. Currently pending points continue below:
So if the Bible says the Lord took away, then that is who did it? And then Satan only served the Lord's good purpose, with a bad intent, as the Sabeans served the devil's intent, not with an intent to serve the devil, but to serve themselves.
Foolish fellow that I am, when I read "the trouble the Lord had brought on him," I think it means the Lord brought the trouble. This argument OVTers say is extraordinarily complex and convoluted, and yet they only tell me it's a figure of speech or a manner of speaking [i.e. it doesn't mean what it plainly says] because the context says otherwise, only the context says the Lord took away, every person in the whole book says the Lord did it, and the Lord does not correct this, Scripture even says this.
Job 42:11 They comforted and consoled him over all the trouble the Lord had brought upon him, and each one gave him a piece of silver and a gold ring.
I suppose we might consider the gift here a manner of speaking, if our theology demanded it, we need not conclude the Lord gave back to Job, actually! For his friends and relatives gave, and then we can erase a plain statement that God gave, without any compunction.
No, what I meant is that the taking away involved sinful deeds, so then if the Lord did this, to say the Lord did cause a sinful deed, in your view, would then be blasphemous.
So then God made a choice when he saw these events happening, and to see a rock about to roll into a house, and not stop it, when you could, involves you in the consequences.
This a really is plain argument.
So this is a choice God makes, and then what happened to Job was chosen in your view to be allowed to continue, for this purpose. Then God indeed was involved in what happened to Job, he has responsibility here.
Blessings,
Lee