10 Vaccines That Saved The World

[User Name]

"Since its creation in 1796, vaccination has been saving millions of lives from gruesome infectious diseases like smallpox and measles. Deadly pustules, internal bleeding, pneumonia, and coughs so hard that you'll break ribs. Discover the vaccines that helped you escape death from loads of terrifying diseases."

10 Vaccines That Saved The World

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[Rusha]

Exactly!

 

[User Name]

"As more and more parents are choosing not to vaccinate their children or are vaccinating them later, diseases like measles are making a comeback. Are vaccines safe? How do vaccines work? Why do some people claim there is a link between vaccines and autism? This week we look at why are people afraid of something that has saved so many lives, and look at the history and science of vaccines..."

Why Vaccines Work

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[User Name]

"The first ever vaccine was created when Edward Jenner, an English physician and scientist, successfully injected small amounts of a cowpox virus into a young boy to protect him from the related (and deadly) smallpox virus. But how does this seemingly counterintuitive process work? Kelwalin Dhanasarnsombut details the science behind vaccines..."

How do vaccines work?

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[User Name]

SciShow News explores how a disease that was officially eliminated in the U.S. has made a sudden comeback:

How Measles Made a Comeback

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[elohiym]

This is a much better film, but it destroys the credibility of those pop-pseudo-science videos you've unfortunately been posting:

Vaccine Nation

"Since its creation in 1796, vaccination has been saving millions of lives from gruesome infectious diseases like smallpox and measles.

Measles is a gruesome infectious disease? No. It's generally a mild, harmless infection. Prior to the vaccine people in the U.S. would bring their children to measles teas to intentionally expose them to infection because it was mild and harmless. Same with mumps.

Deadly pustules, internal bleeding, pneumonia, and coughs so hard that you'll break ribs. Discover the vaccines that helped you escape death from loads of terrifying diseases."

The video you posted is full of inaccuracies. For example, the propagandist in the video claimed tetanus is "found in rust and metals," when in reality the tetanus bacteria is found in dust, soil and manure and requires an anaerobic environment to survive. Rusty nails on the ground can be contaminated with tetanus bacteria from the dust, soil or manure and puncture the skin. Metals in general are not reservoirs for tetanus and some metals, like copper, kill bacteria.

 

[elohiym]

"The first ever vaccine was created when Edward Jenner, an English physician and scientist, successfully injected small amounts of a cowpox virus into a young boy to protect him from the related (and deadly) smallpox virus.

The real story is more interesting. Jenner was a quack that allegedly purchased his medical degree. See Smallpox Vaccine: Origins of Vaccine Madness.

There is no correspondence between cowpox and smallpox as legitimate scientists of Jenner’s day were well aware. Nevertheless, based on the superstition of dairymaids, on May 14, 1796, Jenner conducted the famous experiment that is the foundation of the practice of vaccination. If a rational person wanted to test the theory that a previous dose of cowpox prevented smallpox, he would surely have conducted a survey. But Jenner proceeded to experiment on an eight-year old boy, James Phipps by inserting cowpox pus from a dairymaid, Sarah Nelmes, into incisions in his arm.

Two months later, on July 1st, 1796, Jenner made more incisions into the arms of James Phipps but this time he smeared the cuts with smallpox pus. The boy did not contract smallpox. As no figures were kept in this era it is impossible to say whether insertion of smallpox pus under the skin inevitably produced a case of smallpox. Many people, including children, were immune to smallpox anyway having encountered it without developing a case of the disease. Furthermore, Two months later, on July 1st, 1796, Jenner made more incisions into the arms of James Phipps but this time he smeared the cuts with smallpox pus. The boy did not contract smallpox.

Creighton tells us that James Phipps, even if her were “perfectly well on the ninth day” as Jenner wrote, had ulcers on his arms which took weeks to heal. Some writers claim that James Phipps died from tuberculosis at the age of twenty-one but one source states that he recovered and lived until 1853.15 Jenner’s son, who was also vaccinated more than once, died at twenty-one from tuberculosis. Tuberculosis is a condition that some researchers have linked to the smallpox vaccine.16 In fact, Dr. A. Wilder, Professor of Pathology and former editor of The New York Medical Times, went so far as to say, “Consumption (TB) follows in the wake of vaccination as surely as effect follows cause.” 17​

 

[elohiym]

SciShow News explores how a disease that was officially eliminated in the U.S. has made a sudden comeback:

Here is a better video on the measles virus and vaccine presented by an immunologist:

Dr Tetyana Obukhanych - Do vaccines give you immunity?

 

[elohiym]

"As more and more parents are choosing not to vaccinate their children or are vaccinating them later, diseases like measles are making a comeback.

Correlation does not equal causation.

Are vaccines safe?

No. In legal terms, vaccines are an unavoidably unsafe product.

How do vaccines work?

Different vaccines work differently, and may not work at all depending on how you define "works."

Why do some people claim there is a link between vaccines and autism?

For some, because the onset of their child's autism was associated in time with a vaccination.

 

[annabenedetti]

For some, because the onset of their child's autism was associated in time with a vaccination.

Correlation does not equal causation.

 

[CabinetMaker]

Measles is a gruesome infectious disease? No. It's generally a mild, harmless infection. Prior to the vaccine people in the U.S. would bring their children to measles teas to intentionally expose them to infection because it was mild and harmless. Same with mumps.

That's true. Death and permanent neurological danger are just mild side effects that people will surely recover from.

 

[elohiym]

Correlation does not equal causation.

If a doctor injects your child with an unavoidably unsafe vaccine that lists brain injury as one side effect on the drug insert, and then your child suddenly becomes brain injured following vaccination, you wouldn't think Occam's razor is disposable. You can read this, if you are interested.

 

[elohiym]

That's true. Death and permanent neurological danger are just mild side effects that people will surely recover from.

First, those complications are very rare in measles infection and arguably not caused by the measles infection but a secondary infection like pneumonia that can result from improper medical treatment. Second, those complications are preventable without vaccination, and sometimes occur in vaccinated individuals.

Do you have any evidence that the risks associated with measles infection outweigh the risks associated with the vaccine-strain measles infection? No. I've already had this argument with you.

 

[elohiym]

"Danish Study" CDC Doctor who "Debunked" Autism Vaccines Link Indicted on Fraud

First Fraud: Dr. Poul Thorsen and the original “Danish Study”

"It’s hard to put into words how dishonest and outrageous a study this is, and I knew after reading it that we were in for a long fight: if scientists will lie this explicitly and call it a study and if Pediatrics will publish something this dishonest, they are playing to win at all costs."​

 

[User Name]

This video explains how smallpox was eradicated through vaccination and how other diseases can also be wiped out:

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[CabinetMaker]

First, those complications are very rare in measles infection and arguably not caused by the measles infection but a secondary infection like pneumonia that can result from improper medical treatment. Second, those complications are preventable without vaccination, and sometimes occur in vaccinated individuals.

Do you have any evidence that the risks associated with measles infection outweigh the risks associated with the vaccine-strain measles infection? No. I've already had this argument with you.

The graph had already been posted many times. The rate of deaths before the vaccine and after vaccine are remarkably different. The evidence that vaccinations are effective is overwhelming.

 

[elohiym]

The graph had already been posted many times.

No. If that's true, post it here.

The rate of deaths before the vaccine and after vaccine are remarkably different.

You cannot support that claim with evidence. The death rates for measles were decreasing before vaccination.

The evidence that vaccinations are effective is overwhelming.

You cannot support that claim with evidence. Pick a vaccine and make an argument.

 

[elohiym]

This video explains how smallpox was eradicated through vaccination and how other diseases can also be wiped out:

Stop perpetuating the smallpox vaccine myth. See post #7 on this thread.

You cannot wipe out any diseases that you are currently being vaccinated for. Pick one disease and vaccine and I will prove you cannot wipe it out with vaccination according to scientific evidence.

 

[CabinetMaker]

No. If that's true, post it here.



You cannot support that claim with evidence. The death rates for measles were decreasing before vaccination.



You cannot support that claim with evidence. Pick a vaccine and make an argument.

You ate obviously familiar with the graph so no need to post if again. It should be noted that there were provided decreasing periods always followed be an increase. Until the vaccine was introduced. Then the data follows a completely different tend.

 

[elohiym]

You ate obviously familiar with the graph so no need to post if again. It should be noted that there were provided decreasing periods always followed be an increase. Until the vaccine was introduced. Then the data follows a completely different tend.

There were two graphs, one for incidence and one for mortality. The rate of mortality had been decreasing long before measles vaccination.

Spoiler

As for incidence of measles, show me a graph that accounts for the increase of fifty million people in the U.S. population between 1945 and 1963. Then, if that doesn't show a downward trend, we can discuss the historical correlation between measles incidence and economic boom and bust cycles or the fact that people were intentionally getting measles infections to gain life-long immunity. You don't know what the situation would look like if people used common sense, evidence-based preventative measures like quarantine. As I've pointed out several times, people back then considered measles a mild, harmless infection, else they wouldn't have taken their kids to measles parties.