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Said the woman offended by people wanting to disavow symbols of a racist empire? :Plain: Stevie Wonder would have seen the problem with your complaint. Good on you, Big Easy! Statue suggestions: Louis Armstrong (Algiers doesn't count), Elmore Leonard, The Mannings, Branford Marsalis, Hank...

One entered into by each state. I'm not interested in rearguing the "We had a right to withdraw!" bit that is largely used to not address why those states wanted to in the first place, the actual sponsoring point of the war that settled the question along with that issue. Trivializing evil is...

Take back/make great again? Fox News? Limbaugh? Savage? Drudge? Glenn Beck? Fake news? :Plain: :rotfl:

Not necessarily. In a republic where the majority doesn't care enough a concerned minority can alter things without totalitarianism raising its head. It's very different on a number of levels, beginning with the fact that relocation isn't destruction. Which no one is doing. Which is complete...

Rather, communities are finding support from some of us who understand the history, why they'd find association with their communities and those monuments objectionable and want to remove them.

I'd say be honest in your criticism, but even I'm not that much of an optimist. What I reported was her spamming the thread with photos that were burying the attempts of some to have a conversation on the point. Others have been banned for less. I just wanted her to cut that out and engage or...

I don't agree with vandalizing public or private property, so we'll split on that. It's not the way to handle differences. Neither is Tam hiding from argument while she hurls unsupportable nonsense at people she won't engage then spams the thread with another ream of photos (some of which may...

It's stupid to deface someone else's property. It's almost as goofy to suggest the vandal is a racist in this instance. Like suggesting a man who detests alcohol to the point where he feels compelled to vandalize the liquor cabinet of an alcoholic must be an alcoholic himself. What you do there...

I'm a liberal in the same sense the Pope is a Protestant, but in the parlance and thinking of some here, your point is taken. :) I'd say take another of those monuments and substitute one for Reverend George Lee, who was offered protection if he ceased working to register black voters in 1955...

Using Photoshop? Okay, assuming that's real (and I couldn't find it on Google, but who knows?). So this is the latest way to avoid the argument? Well, no one should support vandalism, even if you can understand the motivation. There are adult ways of handling serious considerations and that...

No and you've been answered on that mistaken notion. Washington isn't being commemorated for owning slaves or supporting that horrific idea. Those men clad in Confederate uniforms are inseparably linked, both in the form of expression and by virtue of their actions in defense of a rebellion...

It isn't, which is why you do this instead of attempting to illustrate that against challenge. Literally has nothing to do with my position. Rather, he isn't commemorated for his errant beliefs, but for the actions that led to the preservation of the Union and his freeing of an enslaved...

He said, arguing for the tyranny of the minority. Else the tyranny of his notion of a principle over any other. And so it goes... :Plain:

Rather, he isn't commemorated for his errant beliefs, but for the actions that led to the preservation of the Union and his freeing of an enslaved people. Most Southerners didn't own slaves, didn't own plantations, etc. But the men in Confederate uniform might as well have owned plantations and...

Again, beside the point, given he's not being memorialized for that particular while those Confederate "gentlemen" stand or ride in full uniform and support of that odious cause are, prima facie, by virtue of how they are presented and what distinguishes most of them from others of their day...

What you don't know would educate you. No, you assumptive goof. I come from a family descended from one of those people. When I came up that lionization was at a premium and institutionalized in Southern culture in a way that didn't invite or allow other considerations. It never occurred to me...

This statue could be replaced with one of Cpl. Roman Ducksworth, who was forced off a bus and shot to death by a police officer who it is believed mistakenly thought the serviceman was a freedom rider. He was, in fact, a military police officer on leave to visit his sick wife. You can lie to...

He absolutely was, but he's not being memorialized for his role in allowing that institution to continue. So that sort of business isn't really on par or going to help you prop up those who did.

So was Truman at one point. So was Wallace. Men can change. But when you put a man in Confederate uniform on a pedestal you've rather narrowed the interpretation and field. :Plain: If anyone suggested a monument to Truman in Klan sheet it would be about as stupid a notion.

I'm only called a progressive by people living in the wrong century. Now try saying something even less rational. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights (neither of which have literally anything to do with the present consideration) are very important to me. You dare say all sorts of things...