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  1. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    No, intent absent framing as law. Just so, you might be a raving racist or a near saint and believe all sorts of crazy or wonderful things, and that's your right. But if you want law you write it down and men vote on it. Town. You may have a key sticking on your keyboard. That's not what...
  2. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    Rather, it does let anyone interested know what they need to about either how you think or fail to and how your less than encompassing methodology, which may well boil down to the same thing, feeds your distorted bias. What they need and what you can't afford to allow is context. From the...
  3. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    Sherman? You may have moved to Texas ma'am, but there's no way you're from the South. Sherman. Cover the ears of your children at what would have proceeded from the mouth of any Southerner asked about that one. In my South he has long been considered a war criminal and is detested. Of course, he...
  4. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    Did the South have the right? I think it was at the very least arguable. Jefferson would have said yes, but then Jefferson's America lacked the connections of nearly a hundred years of struggle. In Lincoln's time I think it was far less clear. Or, technically and considering a lot of what the...
  5. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    I understand the argument that states both entered and should have been entitled to exit voluntarily. Certainly Jefferson and a number of the founders would have agreed. What the South leaving the Union accomplished was as I set out in definition and S. Ct. holding. Additionally, see Texas v...
  6. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    It was, in fact, literally what I said to Lon and precisely what you commented on, divided into parts and with an examination of those parts that were contrary to your assertion that it was "Mere opinion with no evidence." :Plain: This is what you posted before that declaration: All I did...
  7. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    I assumed you had at least passing familiarity with the history. :Plain: Let's peel away your attempt this way. I wrote: Claim #1. What that would leave would be a lesser version of the United States Inarguably true given the loss of resources and agricultural productivity of the South to...
  8. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    What that would leave would be a lesser version of the United States, weakened by treachery, and the South would be established as a confederation of slaver nations vying for territory against its interests, at the very least. An ideological enemy of the U.S. established from it. At any rate...
  9. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    It's an absolute good and I believe necessary. As long as they remain on those pedestals the wrong message will continue to be sent and the myth of nobility served. There's not good way to champion a bad cause. I don't know how to say it more plainly, Lon. Because Lincoln fought for the...
  10. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    Not a point contested. You don't really know the intent of either man beyond the action, but that was a world class dodge. To avoid a repeat of that, take it as a hypothetical. A guy is a real philanthropist, sends scores of deserving, poor kids with promise through college. He contributes...
  11. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    Wrote a long answer that was eaten by a storm...so this will be a bit shorter. You haven't heard it from me either. You've heard me note a support for those who would remove monuments to an institutional evil. It doesn't matter who believes a thing if the thing they believe is wrong. So it...
  12. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    I think you think too much about me and not enough about the issue. I don't care who believes in the goodness of Lee. He is still accountable for the terrible choice he made and what that choice served. Romanticizing him instead of using him as a cautionary tale is partly why it took about a...
  13. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    Lee led the armies of the South in defense of the evil institution of that slave state. You can choose to separate and compartmentalize whatever suits your bias. Bill Cosby did a lot of good for a lot of people while he was about the business of raping a much smaller number. Do you...
  14. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    There is no honor in defense of an evil. Lee knew better and acted contrary to his greater moral obligation, the same sense that had him decry the institution his personal service upheld. Seeing them clearly doesn't require my hate, but it does remove from me an ennobling pity and lift the veil...
  15. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    Aside from fundamentally disagreeing with that, the Reich being a racist system within which certain people weren't actually considered people or given the protection of law, my use of it was in noting that doing away with the symbols of its evil didn't erase history or cause anyone to forget...
  16. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    Yes. That's how councils of local government form and how they function. The same is true for Congress. We vote in people to speak for us, negotiate and stand. If they don't do the job we can fire them. Here's something from the mayor of New Orleans: New Orleans was also America’s largest...
  17. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    I already have, and you've responded with smilies, block quotes and single sentence nothings. I'm not going to repeat myself for you any more than you're going to contend with fact. Just stew in that fairy tale you've bought into, leave off reading what the people who started the war said about...
  18. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    You already did and I read it entirely. :Plain: Otherwise, as with Tam and Angel this is what I expect in response to reason from people who lack a demonstrated command of the facts and control of their emotions. Ah, well. Can't wait on the next exciting upchuck or smiley. I'm sure it will be...
  19. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    In response to Tam's 8% comment... That said, I have no idea where she's getting her numbers. Here are a few more fun facts. In 1860, 47% of the population of the South was slave. One third of Southern families owned slaves (that's more than 8% for the math challenged). So if you thin a...
  20. Town Heretic

    This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

    How about the people of New Orleans would rather have a better, nobler association? Sounds good to me. And removing Swastikas and Nazi emblems in Germany didn't lead to anyone forgetting the Third Reich, but it took any semblance of honor from the association. I'm actually fine with racist...
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