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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Since God sets all bodies / planets / moons / stars in motion then no big bang, no natural cause, is required. Since God created all bodies / planets / moons / stars no gravity was needed to pull the particles together after the big bang. Since God set all bodies, etc. in motion, no natural...
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If God just "set" the earth, moon, etc. in motion, then the big bang and gravity are not required and gravity does not exist. --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Then what is the cause of the inertia that is moving the earth, moon, and planets? --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Gravity pulls planets toward each other but they never collide into each other. Why not? Planets and moons are moving in orbits around other planets or suns. What is the cause of their movement? If gravity moves planets toward each other then what moves them in another direction, a direction...
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This is where I rollerblade on the Brooklyn side. As you can see there is no curvature of water under the bridge. The two tall columns were built vertically straight with levels and plumlines at each location. The largest cables were then strung between the two towers. Then the cables hanging...
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    For the reasons you have just given is why I said gravity can exist even if not mentioned in the Bible. I have no problem with your argument. But as you say, "imagine all of the matter.." and I I believe that gravity is imagined. But if gravity does exist then I would consider your argument to...
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You can see there is a curvature to the bridge. The water under the bridge is absolutely not curved. --Dave
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I already said I don't know. Your turn. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Question: Did God create darkness, or was darkness a result of God creating light? I quoted you Genesis that says darkness was on the face of the deep, and God said let there be light. I don't know how to answer your question. I've never be asked that question nor have I ever considered it. The...
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I lived in Staten Island and now Brooklyn and have crossed the Verrazano Bridge many times. I roller blade all summer next to the water and under the bridge. The waters under the bridge and into the harbor from Brooklyn to Staten Island to Manhattan are perfectly flat. You can see the shore line...
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The earth, sun, moon, and stars, are all different things, not the same thing. The Genesis cosmology is confirmed by simple observation. The following is what we all observe. The earth has life, plant life, animal life, human life. The earth has an atmosphere with oxygen and carbon, to sustain...
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This tread is about flat earth not gravity. I made my arguments about gravity and no one has addressed them. But that's OK, the goal of debate for me is put the arguments for and against an issue, deal with those points and then move on to others. I already understand and have seen the world...
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Just make your point, please. --Dave
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    We were not talking about the sun, moon, and stars. We were talking about what keeps things on earth not about what keeps the sun, moon, and stars moving above the earth. With flat earth theory the sun, moon, and stars are not all the same thing, they are not all planets. My point has always...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Things that are heavier than air come down, things that are lighter than air go up. There are things that float and things that sink in water. Velocity is movement, and the speed of what is moving. Gravity is about the direction of things that move, regardless of how fast. Gravity is always...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I gave you a few quotes on what gravity is. I didn't make them up. Look it up and see for yourself. Every quote I made was linked to its source. --Dave
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The issue here is how do we know if the earth is flat and stationary as opposed to an earth that is a spinning globe. Gravity was an idea formed to explain the spinning globe. If someone had to explain why some things things on a flat stationary earth fall while other things float up into the...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I was wondering the same thing. --Dave
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