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I don't need an experiment to tell me what I see everyday. Everybody can see this for themselves. Don't trust your eyes, is the beginning of mind control. --Dave "The terms “horizon line” and “eye level” are often used synonymously. Horizon line/eye level refer to a physical/visual boundary...

I don't need a camera, I have eye's. --Dave

Of course height is involved. The horizon line rises with you as it should on a plane/flat earth. The higher you go up the further you can see into the distance on a plane/flat earth. The horizon line would drop below eye level the higher up we go if the earth has a globe. These are basic...

"The terms “horizon line” and “eye level” are often used synonymously. Horizon line/eye level refer to a physical/visual boundary where sky separates from land or water. It is the actual height of the viewer’s eyes when looking at an object, interior scene, or an exterior scene."--Basic...

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I will be retired in another month. I will be moving to NJ. As the weather warms up, I will be happy to do some star, sun, and moon watching, between spending more time with grandchildren and afternoon naps. Not that I will need naps but they will obviously help me stay up later into the night...

Denying the most basic and obvious human perception that the horizon line is at eye level is the beginning of the globe deception. --Dave

That this is proof of a globe is not clear to me. I appreciate your imput though and am still analyzing it. We all know that there is no acrc or path of the sun on the globe model. What we see for a heliocentric model is the earth spinning and rotating on a tilted axis around a stationary...

We don't need a camera to see that the horizon is level/straight/flat. --Dave

I usually say "appears to be rising", I did not mean that it actually rises. But the issue is that those who believe in the globe say we look slightly down at the horizon because they say we are looking at the bulge of a curved earth. But the reality is that the horizon rises to our eye...

The path of the sun as seen from any particular location does not prove the earth is a globe or that it's flat. --Dave

I'm studying this, from both sides. Flat earth has its own way of seeing the stars. --Dave

I hope you're kidding, but just in case...it's how we see the world. --Dave

I can't question your personal opinion, but this is science and verification is required. --Dave

To everyone There have been good arguments made for globe earth. There have been good arguments made for flat earth. I personally will judge all arguments from both sides for logical/rational integrity. I have done this with every topic I have studied. For me the existence of God wins this...

Never said I would never respond, just taking the time I have to study the arguments. I'm just not take the side of globe earth for this debate. --Dave

I'm going over the information you gave me with the time I have. I still work everyday, but i'm retiring and will have a lot more time for this in a month. Your claim that everything your saying is absolutely truth, end of story, is not a debate. I haven't heard from "everyone living in the...

Show me how you did that? Saying it does not prove it. Show me a pictures of your equipment. You have a camera don't you? I'm not saying you didn't, but I hope you understand this needs verification. --Dave

The flatard videos cover too much ground all at once. We have already been arguing many of the points made from them. I have watched most of them and I will watch the rest. And yes I don't care for the ridicule and bad language. The videos that daqq suggested I think are better. I will be...

Glad you're back, and no I have not ignored any arguments from either side of this topic. I want more in depth debate as I have thanked daqq for understanding. I'm still researching the "Mapping" arguments. I'm not going to answer posts that make too many points all at one time. The...