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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    See my reply to JudgeRightly. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    When chance is at the particle level it becomes the basis for the whole universe made up of particles. By chance this universe came into existence out of all the possible universes that could have resulted. By chance this planet produced all the needed elements to produce and support life out of...
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Exactly, the problem is just how much of the Bible can we take literally vs not literally. So much of it is been deemed not literal that one can hardly know what is or is not true about it. This is the reason why for many the Bible is primarily myth. --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Quantum rules out any mind, thought, plan, or purpose for us or the universe. It's all by chance. Atheism is naturalism, all that exists is nature. That atheism is merely a denial of God and not an affirmation of anything--naturalism is at the heart of the irrationality and deception of atheism...
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This is not about me, if I'm convinced one way or another. It's about the topic. FYI: There are those raised Buddhist who become Christians. There are those raised Christian who become atheists, etc. Everyone will decide for themselves to either continue to believe what they were taught when...
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You are welcome to your opinion, and everyone else is welcomed to theirs. There are many scholars that say the Biblical cosmology is flat earth. The sun is always said to move across the sky and the sun stood still for Joshua. The heavens, God's throne, and Christ's ascent to go and be with...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You misunderstand rationality. Rational thought is propositional. If this than that. There are three laws of rational thought, I doubt you know what they are. Einstein has everything to do with making time and space the same thing. Time keeps everything from happening at the same eternal...
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I just don't get your anger. You and others have had an opportunity to explain why the earth is not flat. For years I've wanted to know why we have accepted Einstein's irrational space-time universe and now a quantum multiverse. We are possibly headed, I believe, for a great deception that...
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Flat Earth Perspective & Sunsets Field of View Explained in 2 minutes The best and shortest explanation of geometric plane geometry with perspective I have ever seen. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    One thing you learn about debate is that it requires a thesis and an antithesis. That would be any subject argued for and argued against in any particular way. Is the earth flat, for vs against. I don't know why anyone on a debate site would not understand the basics of debate. If I or...
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Because flat earth makes valid arguments even though I can't see the whole picture of it in my head as yet, and if I never do see the whole thing I will not say I'm flat earth. NASA is a secret government agency that cannot be trusted. --Dave
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I was told pretty much the same thing when I became an open theist. --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The ship would be like a train on a track. The top of the train as we can imagine in the drawing would shrink in size from top to bottom as it moves into the horizon and vanishes. This is what happens on a plane, not a curve. The ships gradual shrinkage from top to bottom corresponds to plane...
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It's the flat earth argument, not mine. The original video had no commentary. Here is an analysis to explain it. --Dave
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    We are not just seeing the ship disappear, we see it's reflection underneath it disappear with it. The ship disappears from top of mast to bottom of reflected mast in perfect perspective. You can go to the 17:00 mark on this video and see the beginning of the, bottom of upside down reflection...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The ship does not go over the horizon. It disappears into the horizon, the mast simply disappears last because of its height. All globe earth arguments say we can't see the curve but we can see ships go over the curve/horizon. This is not the only video that shows ships disappearing into the...
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The only instrument that addresses the horizon is a telescope that I know of. What instrument shows a horizon is not at eye level? So, every time we see a "hard horizon line" we know the Earth is not flat. Does this mean that if there are times when we see "things just sort of fade into a haze...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    How Boats Vanish Over the Horizon This is going to be a difficult thing to prove because those of you who are globe earth simply will not watch any video you think is from flat earth folk. This video does not say flat earth so I think it's neutral on the subject. Two things to notice from...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Metabunk Distance in Miles: 229.2 Viewer height in Feet: 35000 Results ignoring refraction Horizon = 229.2 Miles (1210153.46 Feet) Bulge = 1.66 Miles (8759.49 Feet) Drop = 6.64 Miles (35060.01 Feet) Hidden= 0 Feet (0 Inches) Horizon Dip = 3.313 Degrees Right Angle Triangle Calculator Given...
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