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I'm showing you what the Bible literally says. I'm pointing out where you are wrong about what it says. Calling me a liar means you can't defend your point. You can claim the Copernican Heliocentric modal can be seen in Genesis one but you have to stretch it to make it fit. Flat earth...

Historically Genesis has been made into a myth, we don't agree with that, but it has happened in the eyes of the world and much of the church today. Math does not prove a cosmology, it assumes one or another. The Biblical sun is not a star among millions of other stars. There is one earth...

It also results in a model that does not match reality. This is why I asked if it's even possible in your mind that God created a spherical earth, because if you can't accept it as even a possibility, then there's no way you'll accept it if shown to be true. Neither Clete nor I have said it was...

Another factor is horizon magnification. This was not invented by flat earth. Magnification at the Astronomical Horizon "The magnification at the astronomical horizon depends only on the density gradient just below eye level; for practical purposes, that density gradient depends only on the...

Just take me as I have presented myself both as advocate for a debate I believe is important and as one who is genuinely not sure that heliocentrism is true and flat earth is false. That you, or any other Christian, would take other Christians like myself who have doubts about this and brand us...

Genesis 1:14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 And God...

Even on a globe the moon and sun are closer to the viewer over head and smaller at the horizon. The only real question is by how much. --Dave

How many times do I have to tell you? Make your point, I'm not going to make it for you. --Dave

If we want to debate well we have to study the side we oppose. I read the sites on photographing the moon, thanks. --Dave

Anything is possible for God, so why ask? Not everything is possible if you take Genesis literally. --Dave

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was...

I like that you finally viewed a video and made an analysis. I am not an expert on photography. Most of us aren't. I'm going to send your comments to the person who made the video and to a few others to see how they answer your objections. I will look over more photos to see if others have...

The effect of using a telephoto lens. --Dave

Here is an expert analysis of a Neil Armstrong interview. Peter Hyatt offers his analysis of Armstrong's interview. Hyatt offers Deception Detection Training for the FBI. The important part of the video starts at the 4:00 mark and ends on the 29:00 mark. The 25 minutes will change what...

That's what I said and I didn't say it originally to you. You jumped into this and you're not the one my comment, space-time is a concept, was intended for. --Dave

No, no. So called evidence can be shown to be false. Ask Trump. Actually I think globe earth operates the same way evolution works. --Dave

That's clearly a digitally enhanced CGI, photograph of the moon. Sun and moon sets over the ocean will be next. Space-time is an imagined concept. That should not even be debated. Time and space are not the same thing on planet earth where we live. Saying they are the same thing in space...

A mathematical equation based on a concept is not proof of a concept. The concept is imagined not discovered in nature nor discovered while doing math. Space-time is an idea, a concept, something imagined. Ok? --Dave

And people will still believe in a globe even if it's shown how impossible it is. I didn't appeal to God for a flat earth as opposed to physics. I appealed to God as the creator of the flat earth as opposed the evolution of the universe from the Big Bang--no God required for that. Christians...

Einstein. --Dave P.S. Now who's an idiot?