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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    To merge into the horizon is not the same as to sink below it. But other than that every thing else you say is correct to me and there needs to be confirmation of these other factors. As I have said flat earth has more to prove but without a viable horizon model it would die right here. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The graph incorporates it's own visual logical conclusion. There's no debating it. --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This graph accurately shows what we all see from our perspective with our limited viewing capacity. The sun is obviously small enough and close enough in order to be consistent with this perspective reality. --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Your model is not a fact of my model, mine has perspective yours does not. Anyone one can clearly see the difference. --Dave
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    In this model the sun hits and goes to a horizon we can see, then beyond it to a distance that we cannot see. We are limited as to how far we can see into the distance, horizontally, across the earth because of perspective and the density of the earth's atmosphere in the troposphere. We can...
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You think I've fallen into a "black hole" called flat earth? That's a good line, "gone over some 'event horizon'", it has humor. Writing arguments is not behavior, I'm not behaving badly by arguing flat earth in opposition to spinning globe earth. It's not stupid to see what is meant by...
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That the sun "appears" to be the exact same size from sun rise to noon and noon to sun set is very much disputed. But because of perspective even on a spinning globe the sun would appear larger at noon simply because the viewer is actually closer to it than at sun rise and sun set. So, nothing...
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This graph is not only in correct perspective to the stick figures in it, it's also in correct perspective to us viewing it. We are a part of this graph. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Your graph does "not" show the sun overhead nor into the distance in perspective. My graph shows the sun overhead and how it descends into the distance in perspective. Your graph does not tell the whole story mine does. --Dave PS In geometry not everything is a triangle. But I'm not going...
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Geometry in perspective sucks for you guys, I get it. That's why you don't use it. By ignoring it you present a false view and a false prediction of flat earth. --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    My graph is irrefutably geometrically accurate. The sun on a flat earth will come down to the horizon and move past it beyond our ability to see it. --Dave
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Your graph does not consider perspective as mine does so it does not represent how we actually see the world. Everything I have said is true about how we see the world in perspective. Get real. --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The horizon is where sky meets earth at our eye level. The path of the sun and our path on flat earth are parallel. No matter where we look along the horizon there's a distance we cannot see beyond. The sun will simply merge into the horizon and the distance in elevation will not be detectable...
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I just gave you the explanation. You simply don't believe that explanation is true. You don't believe in perspective. I get that. Anyway, I'm gong to graph out my own flat earth perspective matrix. There is site called, "Trying to understand the math behind the perspective matrix", but...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I will move on to eclipses but in the past we were jumping to quickly from one aspect of this debate to another. And it was video vs video which I agree was not what this website was really intended for. I have decided to take the slower route and try to put as much as I can in written...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I understand your point. Yet the prediction of parallel planes seen through our eyes in perspective when ground beneath us and sky above us meet at our eye level there is a hard horizon simply because the earth is a solid. Now your view, the globe view, has a prediction that the flat earth...
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No problem. I still understand your point. I've been reading up on calculating angular diameter. There are good videos on it. --Dave
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It seems the density of the atmosphere in the troposphere makes it impossible for us to see through it at great distances. Combine that with objects become to small and even land masses shrink in size and we just can't see beyond a certain distance. When we look up we are not looking through...
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Then the sun should appear over the globe at sunset and sunrise to be a lot smaller then when overhead because the observer is twice as close to when he first sees it compared to when he sees it overhead. Perspective is not just about the distance of an object its about what we can or cannot...
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