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Did you read it? [Gen 4:9 KJV] And the LORD said unto Cain, Where [is] Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: [Am] I my brother's keeper? If, as some Open Theists say, God asking Adam where he was after he ate of the tree means that God did not know where Adam was, then when God asks Cain...

@Lon @Clete Compare Adam's whereabouts with Abel's, chap 4.

If the two things have become one in Christ, which makes sense, then you can't really have one of those things in conflict with the other, else He's conflicted.

The other thing He emptied Himself of was the ability to live forever...His immortality. Maybe "ability to live forever" is the wrong way to say it. More like "inability to die, ever".

Yes! Yes! Not to derail, but aren't these conflicting things? 1. That He was immortal (could not die), and 2. That He was mortal (He could die). And after He took on flesh, His human body, He had something that made Him different than He was before, His mortality. Yep. Two things that apply...

It seems that if God (even putting aside the trinity part of the equation for now) became something else while still remaining God, then He must have added something, in this case "man-ness" or "human nature". I'm not completely sure that you can say "It doesn't take anything from His deity,"...

Good! Now let's go back to how this part of the conversation got started: I said: And you responded: You said above that Jesus became a man. Here's a definition of "mortal" from Merriam-Webster: Human Obviously that doesn't mean that all mortal creatures are human, but it does mean that all...

I'm not the one who keeps using the word I'm defining in the definition.

Don't be afraid. Just spell it out. What do you mean by "human nature"?

I don't think everybody that says "human nature" is talking about the same thing, so I'd like to know what you mean when you say it. It isn't that easy a question, is it?

Right, but what do you count as "human nature"?

And what is included in the human nature He took on?

How many times has He taken on a human nature ?

'Some common synonyms of righteous are ethical, moral, noble, and virtuous.' Merriam-Webster And moral. All of which are immoral. Only walking in the spirit, instead of in the flesh, enables us to live moral and righteous lives.

So Jesus was immortal, then He became mortal, right? He laid aside some of His eternally-held characteristics to become flesh. Jesus then died, and rise again in immortality, something that will happen to us, too, if we believe in Him. If we believe in Him, then we will also want to do as He...

Was Jesus immortal before He was crucified? Are you immortal?

No, our disagreement was based solely on the completely obvious meaning of the single word "death", which is hardly anything like "mortal". ;) That's what it seems like, anyway.

I'm not even sure why it matters to him. There are plenty of people who struggle over what it meant for Jesus to become a man. You and I haven't always agreed on that, even.

You can't die if you're immortal. That's what immortal means. The scriptures you gave only prove He was mortal, because He died, however He might have done so. What you're suggesting is that anyone who might commit suicide could be counted as immortal, because no one took their lives away from...

The promise of the Messiah was for the restoration of life from the dead. That promise was made in Genesis 3, before Israel existed. [Gen 3:15 KJV] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel...