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Would it? I don't know. Or would it just run down and die of "heat death"? The description sounds like God is actually going to step away from His creation at some point in the future, and when He does, everything will fly apart like an atomic bomb went off. This is described here: [2Pe 3:10...

I'm a bit disappointed that you say changing the future of a relationship changes the past.

So "in Him", according to that, is figurative, not literal. It means "by His power" or some such. Or are you saying that God has no power to create or sustain anything that isn't actually inside Himself? Sounds like a limitation. @moonbeam made that case, but I can't see that he was able to...

Maybe you should consider what I meant, since I was the one who used the term. Isn't that part of communicating? Highlight: pick out and emphasize. "the issues highlighted by the report" synonyms: call attention to, focus attention on, focus on, spotlight, foreground, underline, underscore...

You quoted a portion of their article. That's a way of highlighting a particular part. You talked about their "2 assumptions and 1 observation", and then narrowed your focus to the 1 observation. That's a way of highlighting a particular part. You claimed that their "observation" was really just...

Here's what you wrote before, including the part of the article you wanted to highlight. It doesn't say anything about billions of years old. They defined what they meant by "biological succession", which was referring to a consistent ordering of fossils in the rocks from bottom to top. Dr...

Modern jousting.

From ICR's Dr. Tim Cleary: The geologic column has been under the scrutiny of numerous creationists for many decades. Critics have claimed the column is intimately tied to the evolutionary worldview and deep time, and cannot be trusted or used by creation scientists. Other creation scientists...

It's claiming that they "observe" a succession of fossils. Such a claim might be false, but if they actually are observing it, then we will need to deal with it. Succession, of course, doesn't mean that they lived so many years apart, but only that they died in that succession, which a number of...

I'm not sure that's exactly true. The "observation" is that "different kinds of fossils occur in different layers and that the order of the various kinds of fossils from bottom to top is always the same." Unfortunately, they don't always (never) have all the various kinds of fossils from bottom...

But never free just to take passages to mean what we want them to say. That's my problem with using that passage in that way...it presumes, likely incorrectly, that God doesn't know the answer to His own question, yet any good attorney will tell you never to ask a question (in court) that you...

Right! God can't be both wrong in prophecy and also give it contingently. Contingent prophecy--intended to help someone repent and avoid the punishment in many cases--cannot be wrong, because both outcomes are possible...in Open Theism, anyway. Not so in EDF, because God is giving an outcome He...

What I meant, though I admit to poor haste in my post (post haste?), is that if everything is "in Him" like panentheism, then Christians are no more in Him than anyone else, and thus unlikely to benefit from such a phrase. I would say "figuratively." I don't see how we are encapsulated by...

Your closing...is it a reiteration of the context, or merely a closing? If the former, it would seem to be meaningless in Christian circles, from your position as I read it in your post.

Maybe this is the one:

I listened to a Ravi Zacharias talk at BYU that was quite good. He wasn't open theist. I applaud any attempts to reach Mormons, and Paul gave us examples of finding common ground.

I think there's a point to @Clete's assertion, in that Jesus is God, but no longer in exactly the same way as the Father is God. He is a creature and creator at the same time...and cannot ever NOT be a creature again. Oil and water can be unmixed. Even two types of flour could be unmixed. But...

I think you're over-reacting (again). Even Lon's link explains that Mormons (at least the one writing the article) don't accept Open Theism: "If you claim to be an Open Theist then you accept the perception of other knowledgeable people, at least those that have an inkling of what Open Theists...

Right, but the question is formed in the same way as Gen 3:9. [Gen 3:9 KJV] And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where [art] thou? [Gen 4:9 KJV] And the LORD said unto Cain, Where [is] Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: [Am] I my brother's keeper? And Lon was bringing...

Yet, since we are talking about the character of water in a glass, we don't say, "God infinitely knows about the air in the glass." Seems like a personal problem, to me. But the point is that there is a limitation to "everything" when we are talking about "what exists". So when we read "by Him...