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I just don't buy it. There is just no way that he doesn't understand. Something else is going on here.

Very true but my point wasn't that so much as to simply point out the Jengo is talking out of his... Well, I'm not allowed to say where but you get the gist.

Exactly! I've spent probably hundreds of hours at this point making direct and substantive arguments. Some simply refute major points on the other side or make substantive affirmative arguments in favor of a globe Earth but would not qualify as "proof" but others are legitimate and utterly...

The proof that you're a troll who's just talking out his ear is the fact that I have never claimed to have proven that the Earth is round. Never once have I made that claim. Not one single time. Ever. You've not read virtually any (if any at all) of this thread, have you? You've gotten your...

I expect them to make an argument. This is a debate forum. If there are either incapable or unwilling to do that then maybe they need to find another hobby. I don't even remember being asked the question but it doesn't matter. To prove a proposition means that you've established that either...

Nope! I make arguments for what I believe. It's Augustinians (i.e. Calvinist, Catholics, et al.) and idiots who make bald claims without support thinking their boldness makes their case for them. I dare you to attempt to establish this claim. You won't be able to. It's biblical is what it is...

True! I just cannot imagine what their motives are. What in the world could be profited by holding to such positions?

Saying it doesn't make it so, bub! I dare you to attempt to refute one single syllable of my doctrine. Debating that exact topic was the express purpose behind the creation of this entire website. As a favorite bible teacher of mine likes to say... If predestination is true then God...

Have you read my post where I prove with 8th grade level math that the Earth cannot be flat?

Yes, I know. I can read, thank you. What I said, stands. If you think that it is even remotely possible that the Earth might actually be at the center of our solar system and you have spent more than a day or two looking into it and still consider it possible then you are stupid as a box of...

Proof That the Earth Cannot Be Flat The last few days I've been playing around with some math and thought I'd post some of it here to see if it might move some of the flat earthers maybe an inch or two back toward reality... Let's put some of the sunset images we've taken to good use and see...

A significant percentage of the idiot flat earthers are so in the name of Christianity. It is anything but extraneous. It's making us all look like idiots and pushing people away from their only hope of avoiding an eternity apart from their Creator. I have posted absolutely unassailable proof...

Then you need to read this thread because I have flat out proven that the Earth cannot possibly be flat. Further, if your claim is true that you've "spent a number of years doing extensive authentic research of both heliocentricity and geocentricity", you're an idiot. It wouldn't take two days...

No, David it is not nonsense. It has been PROVEN! Because we are moving right along with it! If you get into a jet and go twice the speed of sound, once you've stopped acceleating you would feel that either and you could look down at the instrumments and they'd appear to be totally motionless...

Are you suggesting that gravity isn't a force but rather some form of kinematic something or other? If not, what was the point of making this comment?

The word weak is a relative term. It is just strong enough to cause what it causes, David. I mean, how am I supposed to answer that question? The exact same force that causes apples to fall from trees is what keeps the Moon in orbit around the Earth and the Earth around the Sun. Newton proved...

Be specific. Where have I done such a thing? I do not affirm their reality (ontologically). They exist as ideas, nothing more. How am I in error? What else are they besides concepts? They do not exist outside of a thinking mind. Gravity is weak in comparison to nearly anything you care to...

Who cares what Einstein "made it"? Time and space are what they are - ideas - period. Everyone wants to give Einstein more credit than he deserves. He deserves a great deal of credit, he was a brilliant man but just because Einstein said it doesn't make it true and much of what people put in...

I love that shot of the far side of the Moon! The Moon has got to be my favorite object in the sky. I've taken several photos of it myself. It's so obviously solid and round and real that it's literally histerical to hear anyone suggest otherwhise the way some flat earthers do.

This is subtly self-contradictory, it seems to me. You seem to want both space and time to be both real and not real. Space is no more an ontological thing than time is. Both space and time are ideas, not things that God created nor are they things that have always existed along with God. They...