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  1. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This entire post is one gigantic lie. It's a lie and Dave knew it was a lie when he wrote it. I, and several other have spent countless hours not only refuting the UTTER stupidity that most flat earth arguments represent but also proving that the Earth cannot be flat because of simple...
  2. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't disagree with that but how many times do we intend to refute the exact same arguments? This utter stupidity about water flowing up hill on the southern hemisphere was refuted before the thread was a month old. Now, here was are years later refuting the exact same stupidity all over again.
  3. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This post is not addressed to Dave but to those of you who are engaging him here. David is not merely spouting lunacy, he has lost his mind. He can no longer see up from down, left from right or right from wrong. Nothing - and I mean literally nothing you will ever say will have any effect on...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Okay, so my question is, "So what?" How does making that observation move our side of the debate forward? (At this point I'm not in disagreement with you, I'm just poking around and thinking it through with you.) Clete
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    As I said, it bore clarification and did so without injury. You see! I think we're in complete agreement and then you go and say something like this that throws the whole point into doubt again. In what way would running experiments be fundamentally antithetical to an attempt to prove a one...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Well, don't be offended by my challenge. It simply seemed to me that you were relagating one time events to a category that would render them unfalsifiable, which would not be a desirable position to hold. I agree with you that unrecorded, one time events cannot be studied directly in the same...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Your implication, it seemed to me, was that a one time event is somehow super-scientific and is outside that which science can study and understand anything about. And while a one time event cannot be repeated, by definition, it's effects can be studied and we can thus form theories concerning...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I am arguing with the notion that one time events are some how outside the purview of science. What sort of one time event are you refering to?
  9. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    One time events may be difficult to study but that doesn't put them outside the purview of science in any fundamental way. A physical event inside the physical universe that happens via the normal physical laws of the natural world cannot be said to be a super-scientific (i.e. super natural)...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't understand this argument. This sounds like you're simply stating that science can't explain the supernatural. How is that anything but a tautology? Anything supernatural would not fall under the purview of science, by definition. That isn't to say that there is no evidence for creation...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Okay, so you're just going to be stubborn fool. Good bye David. I don't ever want to speak to you again.
  12. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It's clear and obvious stupidity is what it is. When you go to the equator, there isn't a 1000 mph wind in your face. That's because the atmosphere is generally moving along with the surface of the Earth. In other words, the Earth is not moving at 1000 mph relative to the atmosphere but...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You don't seem to understand the point. First of all, we do not "see flat Earth as irrational" as though its merely our opinion. It IS irrational. The fact that we see it as it is doesn't turn the fact of it's irrationality into a mere opinion. Additionally, the act of calling theism...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Dave, The Earth CANNOT be flat. I have proven it. And I mean that explicitly. I have proven it. I've done so with the clearest and easy to understand logic that anyone could possibly desire or hope for. Indeed, my argument is far more compelling than anything that you rightly cite as 'rational...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There's no question that it is a modern day popular delusion but I was responding more to his asinine comment about being banned because his slober-mouthed stupidity in video form presented "too much irrefutable truth."
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If you get banned it'll be because you basically asked for it and explicitly violated what you've been repeatedly told not to do. I wouldn't watch your idiotic video for all the tea in China. You're stupid if you think the Earth is flat. The proof is the fact that you think the Earth is flat...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    They discuss the science of it because we have been created by, and in the likeness of, a rational God and so the idea that the existence in which we leave should make sense is intuitively felt by everyone, including Christians who have seemingly taken leave of their rational faculties. In...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Here's some sound reason applied to the Flat Earth Theory... https://kgov.com/faith-on-the-edge-flat-earth-interview Here's a link to the documentary discussed in the podcast. It costs all of a whole $14.99. If you believe the Earth is flat and you don't spend $15 to hear both empiracle and...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't know. Maybe. It feels more like deception to me. As if he has consciously decided in advance that he's going to disagree with and dispute anything anyone says on this thread no matter what it is or how much sense it makes. I mean how hard is it to understand something as simple as ants...
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