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  1. Clete

    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Its frequency of use is directly proportional to the frequency of unsubstantiated claims being made in this forum. That's a laugh since the contingent being argument was made first by Bob Enyart only months before his death (i.e. several months ago). It's one of the most eloquent arguments...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Brilliant post! The part about Ariel making herself into a contingent being will go over her head. She won't understand what you're talking about at all.
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    Constitutional Monarchy

    The same is true of the system you are proposing so this doesn't move the debate along at all. It isn't a committee and even if it were, the guarantee is the same as anything in the system that you propose, the rule of law. Millions? I'm simply talking about a referendum of some sort among...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    I've added nothing. "Adding" is your accusation which you have failed to establish. Pretending like it's true doesn't count as an argument. For reasons explained multiple times already in response to this exact endlessly repeated statement. Repeating the same accusation over and over and over...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    That's the stupidest thing ever. Romans is one of his letters. What there's no support for is thinking that chapters 9-11 don't go with the rest of the book of Romans. So what? He said it exactly two sentences after you claim he just made a distinction! Did he change the subject inside the...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    For the seven hundredth time, I've NEVER DENIED IT!!!! Who am I even talking too here? The entire freaking thread is right here for the whole dad-gum world to read, glorydaz! So says Paul.. Romans 10: 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is...
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    Constitutional Monarchy

    There would be no new members. It isn't even rightly referred to as a committee because that term implies not only a permanence but an actual body that wouldn't exist. What I'm thinking of would work more like the way a petition works now. Any judge could start such a petition but no charges...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Well, saying it doesn't make it so, glorydaz. You know, Kingdom believers not only confessed with their mouths but had to put their faith in a man named Jesus Christ. They also believed that Jesus was the Son of God and that He was the Messiah, that He was the Lamb of God who was slain for...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    I stand by my list as it currently exists for the reasons given dozens of times now.
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    Constitutional Monarchy

    Why? How so? No, the committee only exists long enough to bring charges and select a judge for the trial. The point being that any such objection can be overcome with the sort of reasons that you've been defending the system as proposed. That reason being that the existence of such a...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    Okay, so this is clearly all you've got which is entirely unconvincing for reasons already explained and totally unresponsive to the multiple arguments presented against this whole wacky idea. I'm done with it.
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    Constitutional Monarchy

    Major progress! :cool: Well, this is the claim but I've not seen the proof. It seems at least plausible to me that a system could be put into place where a king could be impeached. If it were sufficiently difficult to initiate and carry out then it couldn't serve as a means to basically...
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    Constitutional Monarchy

    It does for everyone other than the king himself. Even with that flaw, its far superior to the joke of a legal system we have in this country where anyone with enough political pull doesn't have to pay any attention to the law whatsoever. The king is the system we are discussing would not be...
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    Constitutional Monarchy

    The brevity of this response should not be taken as my having blown off any of what you said. Since we are mostly in agreement, I'm just trying to be efficient and focus on the point of disagreement.... The flaw in your position is the contradictory nature of conceding the following two...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    That's right because it is plainly obvious that the passage in question is being said to Paul's audience, which is the Body of Christ, which you have now conceded, and there isn't any indication that he's trying to tell them that this is how someone from Israel gets saved under the previous...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    I've pointed out that exact thing multiple times. I can't figure out where the disconnect is.
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    SAYING IT DOES MAKE IT SO!!! Even if you repeat it over and over again! Glorydaz wants you to believe that saying that you believe something verbally amounts to legalism and that the reason its fine that Paul said such a thing as "with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" is because he...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    No, I quoted the first sentence as a way of referrencing the whole. The confusion there is understandable. My fault. I have never denied it! Being talked ABOUT is NOT the same as being spoken TO! How much more completely obvious of a point can that be? THEY ARE NOT RELEVANT TO THE POINT...
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    How does one determine, using the scientific method, that the earth is billions of years old?

    This is false. There would be no ideas to throw out if this were the case. Ever heard of an hypothesis or maybe you've come across the use of the term "theory"? No it isn't! There's political science, economics, mathematics, psychology, etc. None of those and probably several others that I...
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    Beloved57 are you sure you’re chosen?

    The fact that those verses in Romans 10 are in the first person while the whole time the Jews are mentioned in the third person means that Paul cannot be talking to the Jews and yet you IGNORE that point entirely and simply flip it to somehow mean the opposite. I don't know if you're just being...
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